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Drew Brees better win MVP

Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:18 am
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14776 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:18 am
He currently has the highest Single Season QB Passer Rating in NFL history.

2018 Drew Brees 123.8
2011 A. Rodgers 122.5
2004 P. Manning 121.1


The league fricked over Brees in 2011 when he set 30 mind-boggling NFL records, but gave the MVP to Rodgers who set one NFL record, Passer Rating, indicative of passer efficiency.

This year, the media's MVP favorite, Pat Mahomes, is on pace to set some mind-boggling records, but has been nowhere as efficient as Brees has been.

You can't have it both ways. Brees deserves the MVP. You can give Mahomes the OMVP as a consolation prize.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81639 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:27 am to
He's going to win it - everybody realizes how overdue it is and his competitors (Gurley, Mahomes) are both super young and will have plenty of chances.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33742 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:28 am to
I think he should win it.

What he's doing so far is incredible IMO.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27873 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:37 am to
The Packers were 15-1 and Aaron Rodgers threw like 45 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. Brees was incredible that year and the Saints were 13-3, but I don’t think the league exactly “fricked over” Drew.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:11 am to
quote:

2004 P. Manning 121.1
Man, that's an impressive passer rating for 2004.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19820 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 5:49 am to
Win a ring
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
2972 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:13 am to
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The Packers were 15-1 and Aaron Rodgers threw like 45 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. Brees was incredible that year and the Saints were 13-3, but I don’t think the league exactly “fricked over” Drew.

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2004 P. Manning 121.1

Man, that's an impressive passer rating for 2004.

He can't even get credit in here, what makes you think he'll win it?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30110 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:27 am to
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2004 P. Manning 121.1



Set nfl record for passing tds and far away the best player overall.

Top ypa
Top tds by 10
Top rating by 10
Top 3 yards
Top 3 completion rating

Freaking downright insane season for the era.


Brees has inched closer to Mahomes insane td rate the past 2 weeks.

Hopefully he can catch up with the prime time games and national games the next 3 weeks. Something like a 5td game would help out race Mahomes, if not keep up.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 7:31 am
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81639 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:38 am to
A huge advantage that Brees has is Payton is in his corner with the playcalling and Reid / McVay probably dont care as much about MVP as Payton does
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16727 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:38 am to
Our better defense may not help. Sounds weird, but if Mahomes is more frequently in position to win games in the 4th Qtr, or the 2 min offense, voters love that shite.

Our games lately have been out of hand by then.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 7:39 am
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30110 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:46 am to
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A huge advantage that Brees has is Payton is in his corner with the playcalling and Reid / McVay probably dont care as much about MVP as Payton does


I'd argue Reid cares. I'm not worried about the rams (Gurley) winning as that talk has slowed down.

Brees is 10 passing tds, 9 total tds behind. He just needs one exceptional game that can catch up. Something like 400 yards, 5 TDs. From there he needs to just keep up or outpace Mahomes for a win. Doesn't hurt that kc should sit out possibly 2 games if they keep rolling.

Thatd put him at 3000/26/1
Compared to Mahomes 3150/31/7

Posted by summersausage
Member since Jul 2010
1815 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:09 am to
Mahomes still has his bye week so numbers may be a tad inflated looking at them head to head.
Posted by Mike Honcho
North Dallas
Member since Oct 2007
2919 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:13 am to
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This year, the media's MVP favorite, Pat Mahomes, is on pace to set some mind-boggling records, but has been nowhere as efficient as Brees has been.


What NFL record is Mahomes setting? His best stat (TDs) is on pace for #3 all time.

Brees on the other hand is on pace to set the NFL record for passer rating and a completion % that may never be broken.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 8:17 am
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:42 am to
Saw a headline on ESPN's website that Mahomes' girlfriend's stepfather died on Sunday. They're really pumping him hard from all angles.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:45 am to
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2004 P. Manning 121.1


quote:

Man, that's an impressive passer rating for 2004.


Yup.

P. Manning >>>>>>>>>>> T. Brady
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:48 am to
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Saw a headline on ESPN's website that Mahomes' girlfriend's stepfather died on Sunday. They're really pumping him hard from all angles.




Brees is going to have to steal a Ferrari to win this.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 8:49 am
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:53 am to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 12:07 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:58 am to
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The Packers were 15-1 and Aaron Rodgers threw like 45 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. Brees was incredible that year and the Saints were 13-3, but I don’t think the league exactly “fricked over” Drew.



I'd say he was "fricked over" more in the 2009 season, when they gave it to Peyton for the FOURTH TIME.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27873 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:28 am to
He also had a much better stat line across the board than Peyton on 2009, and he sat in week 17. That argument is much better than the one against Rodgers 2011.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110828 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:29 am to
quote:

The league fricked over Brees in 2011 when he set 30 mind-boggling NFL records, but gave the MVP to Rodgers who set one NFL record, Passer Rating, indicative of passer efficiency.

This year, the media's MVP favorite, Pat Mahomes, is on pace to set some mind-boggling records, but has been nowhere as efficient as Brees has been.

i like what you did here.

I was ready to pounce when I read the 1st line, but you really tied it together with the second, great point.
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