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Derek Carr ranks 32nd in fantasy points for QBS

Posted on 10/11/23 at 3:21 pm
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3827 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 3:21 pm
For ole heads that don't understand fantasy football or just think its stupid, I understand but it really is just a simple measure of production.

25 passing yards = 1 pt
pass TDs = 4 pts
10 rushing yards = 1 pt
rushing TDs = 6 pts
You also get negative points for turnovers

Do you guys worry about having the least productive QB in the nfl? Or do you think fantasy is dumb and there is zero correlation between fantasy points and QB ability.

Posted by TeachemMeachem17
Tallahassee, FL
Member since Jan 2010
951 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 3:24 pm to
O line has been bad, playcalling is questionable and he didn’t have Kamara for the first 3 games. I’m not worried but we need to clean things up on the line to be more productive on offense.

Edit: AND he got hurt in a game and played while still hurt in the next game.
This post was edited on 10/11/23 at 3:25 pm
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19624 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 3:27 pm to
Elite Defense + Terrible OC + Defensive minded coach = 32nd fantasy points for QB
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3827 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 3:36 pm to
Ok so its just a coincidence he's the least productive QB in the NFL. Pheww! I was starting to get worried
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22257 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

really is just a simple measure of production.

I can see this point, but you also have to factor in that he's not much of a runner and guys like Daniel Jones, Richardson, Mac Jones?, and others do get a little bit of a boost because they run more than he does.

Another factor in QB production would be that the Saints are one of the top rushing teams (per attempts, not production) in the league.
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Do you guys worry about having the least productive QB in the nfl?

As fans, we worry more about wins than where the QB ranks in fantasy production. We also do not get to control who the starting QB is for the team that we cheer for.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3827 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

but you also have to factor in that he's not much of a runner and guys like Daniel Jones, Richardson, Mac Jones?, and others do get a little bit of a boost because they run more


Ohhh! And here I thought QBs should get credit for advancing the ball via rushing yards.
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
6725 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Do you guys worry about having the least productive QB in the nfl?


No, because he can only go up from here with more familiarity in the system, better playcalling and a more cohesive o-line (even if it's not this season).
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52640 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Ok so its just a coincidence he's the least productive QB in the NFL. Pheww! I was starting to get worried


Mac Jones would like to have a word with you. So would Daniel Jones. Bryce Young. Ryan Tannehill.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3827 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

he can only go up from here


That’s true!! You can’t get worse than last
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22257 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 5:44 pm to
Didn’t say they shouldn’t get credit? I just pointed out their scores get a boost bc they are used more as part of the rushing offense

50 rushing yards = 125 passing yards
1 rushing TD = 1.5 passing TDs
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 6:11 pm to
There’s a correlation between points and ability, especially with a mobile QB. A points and wins correlation is not the same story though being as it’s a team sport. Look at Herbert, often near the top of fantasy points but middling results to show for it due to ineptitude in coaching and defense.

Carr is in a similar but reversed spot. He’s nowhere near a talent like Herbert, but the offensive scheme and injuries or missed PT don’t do him any favors.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9869 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 6:17 pm to
Lol at the excuses.

He sucks. Plain and simple.
Posted by RUFshreve
Shree'pote
Member since Jul 2016
3188 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:16 pm to
He really does. And this board was roasting anyone who didn't think he was a top 10 QB during the off-season.

With our offensive weapons, he should be atleast in the top half of the league, production wise.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
South Alabama Fan
Member since May 2008
36079 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:22 pm to
there is a Fantasy Board that you can go waste space on.

Posted by statpadr
Member since Sep 2022
812 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:31 pm to
Wouldn’t have gotten hurt if he didn’t hold the ball for 5+ seconds. Just saying.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:33 pm to
More stupid shite from high life..
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:41 pm to
I'm not entirely sure how Carr being THE problem on this offense is still a narrative.

Carmichael is the obvious issue here.

Carr isn't elite by any means, but he's played much better with less talent. He didn't just become the worst QB in the league over one offseason.

Our offense is poorly designed, lacks any creativity and is completely inefficient.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 12:42 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21250 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 7:28 am to
Might be in the Top 10 of worst values for NFL free agent signings?
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