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re: Derek Carr is the Saints best hope for a winning season next year and a Division Title.

Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:55 pm to
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No QB is. Period.


Agree that QB is the answer but it's not Carr IMO.

Have a feeling we'll find out though the way things are going.

he's probably going to get cut by the Raiders but he's just not a guy I think you throw a lot of money at. I don't think he'd be all that good of an upgrade from what we had this past season.

I mean remember, the Saints had their best of the season at his expense and the Raiders.

24-0.

Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8806 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:54 pm to
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That 49er team is built so well God takes qbs away from them. They were down to their 3rd string and even he was playing well.


You do realize Jimmy G has been there for years right? Not just this year. So you think Winston is good and should start but are high if we think a qb with a career winning percentage better than a HOF qb couldn’t start for us.

Not to mention I think he has one of the all time greatest win road percentages in history. And Winston has never led one team to the playoffs and has started about the same number of years. Sure you not high?
This post was edited on 2/4/23 at 7:58 pm
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12944 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 8:08 pm to
He’s no better than Dalton. He and Allen aren’t winning shite. With this front office and 8-8 records, we will never get difference makers.

I say tank and start over top to bottom.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32494 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 8:43 pm to
I think keeping Dalton and adding better players around him is a better option. Carr isn’t worth the money.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
64514 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 6:31 am to
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whatiknowsofar


Do you not get tired of everyone laughing at you whenever you try to make a point about anything? Or is that something you just get off on?
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
64514 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 6:32 am to
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You do realize Jimmy G has been there for years right? Not just this year. So you think Winston is good and should start but are high if we think a qb with a career winning percentage better than a HOF qb couldn’t start for us.


It's because he's a fricking idiot.

The dolt's argument for Winston a few years ago was Winston was worth it because we have him cheap. He costed us nearly $13 mill last season farting around the pocket and running right into defenders at the first sign of pressure.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 6:37 am
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32715 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 7:34 am to
Derek Carr coached by Dennis Allen, what could go wrong.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21008 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 11:29 am to
If you guys can't see Jimmy riding a top 5, most of the time top 3 scoring defense to the record he's had, along with an elite running scheme then you're all fricking lost.

Hes average at best, and bad on average. His last 3 seasons

7tds 5 picks in 6 games, injured
20 tds 15 picks in 15 games, mediocre
16 tds, 4 picks in 11 games, average af, thanks for low turnovers though I guess??

OHHH BUT HE MAKES THE PLAYOFFS AND WINS HURR DURR HURR

He is even worse in the playoffs.

In his 6 playoff games in his CAREER, he averages 160 ypg, .66 passing tds per game, and one pick per game.

But hey yeah guys Jimmy's the goods, he's the reason the 9ers win, a 3rd string looking just as good is merely coincidence.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21008 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 11:30 am to
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because he's a fricking idiot.


You're a fricking idiot if you look at Jimmie's stats and think he's any type of answer at all to our problems.

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The dolt's argument for Winston a few years ago was Winston was worth it because we have him cheap


Of all my Winston arguments I've never argued his cost made it worth playing him lol.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
64514 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:49 am to
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You're a fricking idiot if you look at Jimmie's stats and think he's any type of answer at all to our problems.


No you’re a fricking idiot because you’re a fricking idiot. There’s no one else on this board who consistently misses the entire point of a post more than you do.

Just absolutely swing and a miss on nearly every single post

Example:
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The dolt's argument for Winston a few years ago was Winston was worth it because we have him cheap Of all my Winston arguments I've never argued his cost made it worth playing him lol.


I never said the words “playing him”. I’m saying on the team in general.
Posted by SeminoleMarine
Metairie
Member since Nov 2009
3679 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:55 am to
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you need the team to suck until they’re in position to draft a top QB.


Because these are always guaranteed Super Bowl winning, Hall of Fame career picks, right? Brees was not drafted by us, he was signed from someone who didn't want him any longer. Not saying Carr is anywhere near Brees' level, just saying drafting a QB is not always a winning decision.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21008 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:27 am to
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never said the words “playing him”. I’m saying on the team in general.


What kind of retarded hedge are you trying to make? You said I said it was "worth it" to have Winston. Worth it implying what? Starting him, which anyone could conclude, stop being a shite semantic arguing moron.

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No you’re a fricking idiot because you’re a fricking idiot. There’s no one else on this board who consistently misses the entire point of a post more than you do.


Man, when you can even refute my Jimmy post and you just repeat the same insult over and over. Bad look slapnuts.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64514 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:31 am to
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What kind of retarded hedge are you trying to make? You said I said it was "worth it" to have Winston. Worth it implying what?


being on the team, dipshit.

Thank you for confirm my post.....which you've consistently done for months and months.

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Man, when you can even refute my Jimmy post and you just repeat the same insult over and over. Bad look slapnuts.


Because I've never argued for Jimmy G to be here. That's why I keep repeating that you're a fricking idiot.....it's because you are.
Posted by Irish Knuckles
Nuwallins
Member since Jan 2015
687 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:34 am to
i agree. jimmyg is a major league starting pitcher with 16-8 w/l record and an ERA over 4.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21008 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 12:28 pm to
Nice job cropping what I said. I guess you have the attention span of a gnat.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4911 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 1:42 pm to
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I have a hard to equating Dalton as equal to carr. If you wanna use this year as the sample, sure. If you use the previous 5 seasons, carr by far. If you use career, carr is better.


You may have a hard time with it, but Career stats don't lie. Carr is marginally better than Dalton. Difference is Dalton doesn't cost you big money. Carr's career QB rating is 91.8. That is not that superior to Daltons 87.6.

Career Stats-

Dalton - Gp- 166, PCT CMP - 62.5, Yds Game - 229, td- 244, Ints- 144, QB Rating - 87.6

Carr- GP- 142, PCT Cmp- 64.6, Yds Game- 248, Td- 217, Int- 99, QB Rating - 91.8
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1063 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:49 am to
Sam?
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64514 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 6:51 am to
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Nice job cropping what I said


Yes....I used the relevant parts of your posts and ignored the rest of the word salad.

Hope this helps
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 7:06 am to
Let's look at last 5 years...

AD passer ratings: 89.6, 78.3, 87.3, 76.9, 95.2

Dc passer ratings: 93.9, 100.8, 101.4, 94.0, 86.3

AD td to int ratio: 1.93:1, 1.11:1, 1.75:1, .89:1, 2:1

DC td to int ratio: 1.89:1, 2.56:1, 3.06:1, 1.68:1, 1.71:1

Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21008 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 8:32 am to
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ignored the rest of the word salad.


The explanation for my reasoning? Jesus you are weird bro.
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