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re: Derek Carr 2023 Stat Rankings

Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:29 am to
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9560 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:29 am to
Saints started 5-7 in the first 12 games when it mattered. *with the easiest schedule in the NFL.

Carr threw 11 tds in 12 games.

In a pass happy league, that’s garbage.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31889 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:54 am to
And where has that gotten them? Worse.
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
3070 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:03 am to
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How does one miss the playoffs going against an all time terrible schedule? 44% of Carr’s TD passes were when the saints won or loss by 15+ points. 60% of our teams TDs came in the second half. Didn’t score a first half TD in six games. 18th RZ TD% (8th most RZ trips in the NFL) 15th pass yards 15th pass TD% 20th yards per completion 20th yards per play 19th yards per attempt Carr did what he does every year and you think the OC was to blame


I sincerely urge people like you to go look at our rushing offense last year. It was historically abysmal. Alvin Kamara was our leading rusher with 600 yards and 5 TD’s. Our longest rush as a team was 29 yards. It’s not easy to score inside the 20 with zero power running game. We brought in Jamal Williams to score inside the 10 and he went out and averaged 3 yards a carry.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:19 am to
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you can’t do better than carr right now


Lmao. This is a real statement? Im not even convinced Carr is the best quarterback on the team
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile, AL.
Member since May 2008
35399 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:20 am to
In Carr's last season with the Raiders, Josh Jacobs was the league's leading rusher.

Davante Adams also put up good numbers with Carr throwing to him.

McDaniel benched Carr however, and and then I guess there was the mutual parting of ways.

I wonder if the raiders regret letting him go because their quarterback situation certainly isn't better than it was since he's left.

I think what worries me about this year's Saints team is that a lot of things went our way last year as far as scoring offense and scoring defense and turnover margin, but we only finished 9-8. This year the schedule does appear to be more difficult heading in.

I know there's always a few teams that underachieve but there are also a few teams that end up overachieving you never really know what's going to happen.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:25 am to
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And where has that gotten them? Worse.


Another face-painter talking out his arse. Raiders were 8-9 last year. Carr’s last year they went 6-11. Has their qb play been any better? No, Catt wasn’t doing anything to help them win. Now they can move forward, rebuild and draft a qb that actually has potential. Will it work? Maybe not but they are at least trying.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73904 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 11:19 am to
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And where has that gotten them? Worse.


Someone called aidan Oconnell started 10 games for them and they only won one less game

They are better off bc they aren’t in on Derek Carr for $150 mil for the foreseeable future
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20666 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 11:31 am to
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They are better off bc they aren’t in on Derek Carr for $150 mil for the foreseeable future

That's not a fair statement, the Saints only into Carr for $142.8M for the foreseeable future $7.2M is in the past. And the more I look at his contract and the Saints cap situation, the more I wonder if they will end up extending him in 2026 because the way they are handling his restructures, his 2027 cap hit could be over $70M (as a free agent) due to void years.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31889 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 11:36 am to
Their offense was hilariously bad. They won in spite of it, not because of it. You don't think Carr would have done better than 3600 yards passing, 19 tds, and 18 ints?

They are wasting away a good defense, "reset" all you want but if a defense can carry a team into the middle, you aren't resetting with a quality Qb prospect.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:21 pm to
Who knows why they won more games without Carr but they did. One of their better seasons in the past decade. They are happy to be done with the Carr era and now they can try to start over. Must be nice…
Posted by Sp0728
Your head
Member since Aug 2018
2217 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:44 pm to
Sooo literally just average ?
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
37970 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 1:14 pm to
Cause you're fricking stupid, as usual.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 2:13 pm to
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Cause you're fricking stupid, as usual.


quote:

TigerBait2008




Yea yea, all the generic tigerbaits called me stupid last year too. Then baker won the division.

Posted by The Raider truth
Member since Aug 2024
20 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:37 pm to
As a Raider fan I can tell you I cant even remember all the OCs this guy has chewed through.

His best year was under Musgrave who had him throwing bubble screens and dump offs.

He had Amari Cooper and Crabtree, and most of our cap tied up into a very good Oline.

He still was trash with everything there for him to succeed other than the cap money we couldn't put into the D to prop his scarecrow arse.

He then threw Musgrave under the bus, because he kinda hard on him, and he needed his space.

He wanted to put his good buddy Todd Downing in as OC. It was complete
train wreck and Downing was fired after 1 year on the job, which led to Del Rios firing and the hiring of Gruden.

Hes not a coack killer, hes a coach serial killer.
Posted by The Raider truth
Member since Aug 2024
20 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:45 pm to
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Someone called aidan Oconnell started 10 games for them and they only won one less game

They are better off bc they aren’t in on Derek Carr for $150 mil for the foreseeable future


Oconnell was a 4th round pick who had very little reps behind Jimmy G.

He came off the bench out of nowhere and thrown to the wolves against Mack and Bosa, think Mack had like 6 sacks.

The next time we faced the Chargers I think he had 4 TDs in a 60+ pt performance.

Carr would never.

This year he's a backup on the cheap and Minshew is starting at 15 mill this year.

The raiders will take that every day over Carr at 150 mill, no way any day.
Posted by DellTronJon
Member since Feb 2010
1630 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:51 pm to
Thanks for posting that he is an average QB - 12.8 to be specific.
Posted by The Raider truth
Member since Aug 2024
20 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:52 pm to
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And where has that gotten them? Worse.


Not at all. If anything its break even with potential for improvement at far less cost than you poor guys our going to have to endure.

We can sign guys like Christian Wilkins while cutting Jimmy G and taking the hit without a thought.

After 10 years of just lets sacrifice everything to prop the scarecrow, we can invest into other players that actually can change the game rather than one guy who isnt capable of moving the needle.

Minshew also has an infectious personality, which Carr will never have.

Carrs personality is an infection.
Posted by The Raider truth
Member since Aug 2024
20 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:01 pm to
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Who knows why they won more games without Carr but they did. One of their better seasons in the past decade. They are happy to be done with the Carr era and now they can try to start over. Must be nice…


Your damn right we are.

I dont ever want to see that guy around the Raiders. Hes not a Raider.

He was benched, went home 2 weeks early and cashed his check even though we didnt have to pay him, he quit because his ego couldnt take the sideline.

QBs get benched all the time Matt Ryan got benched and didnt act like a bitch.

Carr said he wouldn't come back to the Raiders because we made his wife cry, literally.

Heres the thing, he cried, and you cant come back if we fired your arse.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
6924 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 2:00 pm to
Drew Brees did it almost every year.
Posted by Spaniard
Pine Belt
Member since Apr 2011
1119 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 2:25 pm to
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We can sign guys like Christian Wilkins while cutting Jimmy G and taking the hit without a thought.



Rest easy . Dennis will give you guys Haener or the Rattler soon. Whichever one threatens Derrick Curr the most.
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