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Defense in First Round
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:09 am
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:09 am
Every mock draft I've seen has Nakobe Dean going after our pick. My question is this: should we take an offensive player no matter what since we need a lot of help on that side or should we take the best player available even if that is defense. I think Dean is a top 10 player in this draft and would take him if available.
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:16 am to StrongOffer
If we don't take a QB or try and move up to take one of the best QBs, Then the entire new coaching staff should be fired on the spot along with Mickey Loomis. The only way I see that pick changing from QB is if we sign one in free agency, and that can include Winston. QB is the absolute most important position to fill this offseason
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 11:57 am
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:21 am to burke985
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QB is the absolute most important position to fill this offseason
I agree, but through the draft?
It’s a crap shoot.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:22 am to StrongOffer
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I think Dean is a top 10 player in this draft and would take him if available.
Very good player but Demario Davis plays the exact same position. Unwise to spend 1st round pick on a position where you already have a top player in the league.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:24 am to burke985
Completely disagree. The saints should not get themselves in the trap of chasing average QB's just because that is what the draft gives them. If a true franchise QB is not there then pass on wasting a pick. Way too many teams suffer in mediocrity and turmoil because they waste too many high picks chasing QB potential and then are obligated to stick with that player due to the investment made.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:25 am to burke985
quote:What a galactically stupid take.
If we don't take a QB or try and move up to take one of the best QBs, Then the entire new coaching staff should be fired on the spot along with Mickey Loomis.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:25 am to StrongOffer
QB
LT
CB
WR
In that order
LT
CB
WR
In that order
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:26 am to thermal9221
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I agree, but through the draft?
Free Agent QBs will take up a sizable amount of cap space. If you go with a Free Agent then they have to be good enough to overcome deficiencies in other areas (WR, RB, OL).
Rookie QBs are cheaper so you spend cap on other positions. To go rookie QB you need to already have, or be able to aquire, a high enough pick in the first round which you either have to be abysmal or have a lot of assets to give up.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:28 am to StrongOffer
I like Dean a lot and I think he ends up going before our pick IMO.
I’m not sure how much play he would get with Davis and Werner playing most of the time. And I’m not sure we could even use him as an edge rusher with Davenport and Turner (although they both miss a lot of time).
I wouldn’t hate it. But we’d have to trade up to get one of the WRs we pass on. That being said, if we got Dean & either Burks, Olave, Williams or Dotson, that’s an A+ draft and I’d be really excited.
I’m not sure how much play he would get with Davis and Werner playing most of the time. And I’m not sure we could even use him as an edge rusher with Davenport and Turner (although they both miss a lot of time).
I wouldn’t hate it. But we’d have to trade up to get one of the WRs we pass on. That being said, if we got Dean & either Burks, Olave, Williams or Dotson, that’s an A+ draft and I’d be really excited.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:32 am to Suntiger
quote:I saw someone else mention he plays the same position as D. Davis. I think we take Werner's starting spot and we wouldn't re-sign Alexander. I see no reason he couldn't play alongside Davis. I think Werner is a solid backup but not sold he's an every down player.
I’m not sure how much play he would get with Davis and Werner playing most of the time.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:51 am to StrongOffer
No. We will let Dean go in 1st and grab Damone Clark in 2nd. We will get either an OT or WR in 1st. We will get a FA QB before the draft.
II heard on ESPN radio that Titans want to move Tannehill but no takers. I’d consider him. He might ball out in our system.
Other possible QB’s - Rodgers, Wilson, Garopollo, Watson, Wentz, Goff.
II heard on ESPN radio that Titans want to move Tannehill but no takers. I’d consider him. He might ball out in our system.
Other possible QB’s - Rodgers, Wilson, Garopollo, Watson, Wentz, Goff.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:55 am to StrongOffer
If we going defense I’m intrigued with Jordan Davis on this line. Guy is huge and athletic. Woukd be a crazy dline with him alongside Onyanata, Davenport and Cam.
But if one of the wide outs drops, esp Wilson, you may have to take them
But if one of the wide outs drops, esp Wilson, you may have to take them
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:16 am to StrongOffer
Tbh.. this is a head scratcher.. The only qb that's worth a first that we'll be close to get is Matt corrall.. that's a big if..
So unless our new coach thinks trading players and multiple picks to get the qb they want it's really based on that.. but I'll stay away from defense the first 2 rounds.. depending on free agency and we don't have a ton of cap..
We still need wr number 2# a real burner.. we need a new left tackle.. so if we can get past qb,Lt,and wr#2 we should be in good hand to maybe snatch a guard and a tightens and we'll be back on top but it all starts with who will be the next head coach and wat qb we pusuit but frick defense at the top of the draft
So unless our new coach thinks trading players and multiple picks to get the qb they want it's really based on that.. but I'll stay away from defense the first 2 rounds.. depending on free agency and we don't have a ton of cap..
We still need wr number 2# a real burner.. we need a new left tackle.. so if we can get past qb,Lt,and wr#2 we should be in good hand to maybe snatch a guard and a tightens and we'll be back on top but it all starts with who will be the next head coach and wat qb we pusuit but frick defense at the top of the draft
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:21 am to StrongOffer
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I think we take Werner's starting spot and we wouldn't re-sign Alexander. I see no reason he couldn't play alongside Davis. I think Werner is a solid backup but not sold he's an every down player.
What makes you think he’s a backup? He was really good considering he was a rookie. I like Dean, but he’s an unknown and may not be as good as Werner.
Davis is 33 years old. If anything, Dean is an eventual replacement for Davis in a year or two.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:27 am to Ice Cold
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What a galactically stupid take.
So QB isn't the most important addition needed on this team? I fail to see where that's a stupid take.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:32 am to burke985
quote:This is why it's a stupid take. We should fire everyone if we don't draft a qb? It's pretty much a consensus among scouts that there isn't an elite qb in this class. Much better options in FA than the draft.
If we don't take a QB or try and move up to take one of the best QBs, Then the entire new coaching staff should be fired on the spot along with Mickey Loomis.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:35 am to Suntiger
quote:Just looked up his PFF ratings and it was very high. Maybe I didn't watch him close enough this year. He just never really stood out to me but I could be wrong about him.
What makes you think he’s a backup? He was really good considering he was a rookie.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:56 am to StrongOffer
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The only way I see that pick. changing from QB is if we sign one in free agency, and that can include Winston. QB is the absolute most important position to fill this offseason
Nice cherry picking you must be a libtard, how about reading the whole post
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:00 pm to burke985
quote:Yeah, I've never voted Dem in my life. You're just a friggin moron. You made 2 contradictory statements. Of course one will be correct. The first one you made is retarded. That's why you were called out. Not by me I may add.
Nice cherry picking you must be a libtard, how about reading the whole post
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:03 pm to StrongOffer
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Yeah, I've never voted Dem in my life. You're just a friggin moron. You made 2 contradictory statements. Of course one will be correct. The first one you made is retarded. That's why you were called out. Not by me I may add.
QB is the most important position on the team as we saw last season, if the new staff isn't on that page then I stand by my statement.
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