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Damn Ingram’s agent

Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Pelicanus
Member since Jun 2019
651 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:26 pm
With Kamara hurting he should be shut down for three weeks. If we had Ingram it would be no problem but Murray has been a little underwhelming. I still hope we shut Kamara down and Murray surprises me. I just haven’t seen it yet.

Gosh I wish we still had Ingram.

That is all - Rant over.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18341 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:29 pm to
Wonderful post.

I’m surprised you gave us this wonderful knowledge for free. We should have to pay for such insight.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89773 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:34 pm to
CSP always had a back like AK which is not who MI is.
Posted by ffokcuf
Member since Mar 2018
1047 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:34 pm to
Murray is with a new team and is pretty much a plow horse. He started to flash last week. He has deceptive speed and power. Runs a little too vertical but is very effective. But he's a punishing back when given 20+ carries. Wears the defense down. Especially in the 4th quarter. We will be just fine.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43468 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:02 pm to
Latavius is that 1 cut back that works well with a fb. If Payton gives him that he will flourish.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:45 pm to
Happens all the time
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64116 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 7:21 am to
Murray has been fine when actually given a chance.
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
3517 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 11:20 am to
Ingram < Murray

Just wait.....
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8709 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:31 pm to
Murray is a 6'3" 230 lbs. thoroughbred that needs to be lathered up. 3-5 carries per game is meaningless as he needs 13-18 carries to open up the passing game for Teddy.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42371 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:41 pm to
The suspension is what really hurt Ingram
How do you count on a guy like that
If not for that, I think the Saints would have tried a little harder to keep him, they weren't going to overpay him.
Murray looked a lot better against Jags but depth is definitely a concern. It might be worth holding Kamara out until after bye, let him get fully healthy for the division games after that.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8709 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 1:10 pm to
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The suspension is what really hurt Ingram

Ingram's agent was looking out for himself and not Mark. Told Ingram he was worth a lot more $$$ on the open FA market. Saints tried to negotiate a 3-4 year contract with Ingram as his agent directed Mark not to return calls or texts since he was working on the Baltimore deal.

Kamara definitely lost his best friend and running mate. Payton cannot run Kamara into the ground as Murray needs a lot more carries pg
Posted by mikesaltychip
Mandeville La..
Member since Apr 2008
133 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 1:28 pm to
Murray can't get on the field because he can't pass block! Ingram was one of the best pass blocking RBs in the league.
Posted by Frenchdip
Member since Jun 2019
128 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:17 pm to
Correction...... CSP has never had a player like AK.
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8378 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:24 pm to
One thing we have been missing since MI left is that he was a stone wall on blitz pick-ups. Loved watching linebackers flip up and over him. That's been missing.

EDIT: Might be why they liked Zenner... my buddy who is a Detroit fan tells me he's good at that
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Chef Curry
Member since Mar 2019
2055 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:19 pm to
I think Murray has been underutilized. He’s had some nice and runs and catches when they actually give him the ball.
Posted by tigernnola
NOLA
Member since Sep 2016
3589 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Murray is a 6'3" 230 lbs. thoroughbred that needs to be lathered up. 3-5 carries per game is meaningless as he needs 13-18 carries to open up the passing game for Teddy.


Right on ! Last week was a prime example. One of those guys that needs consecutive carries to get in a rhythm. You will forget Ingram in the long run.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48270 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:36 am to
I really liked Ernie Wheelwright.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

With Kamara hurting he should be shut down for three weeks. If we had Ingram it would be no problem but Murray has been a little underwhelming. I still hope we shut Kamara down and Murray surprises me. I just haven’t seen it yet.

Gosh I wish we still had Ingram.

That is all - Rant over.



Ingram made a foolish mistake by buying a story from a new firm. No way does he want to end up in Washington making that close to what the Saints would have paid. That is Ingram's fault for not thinking it through.

Murray is averaging more yards per rush than Kamara in 2019. He is the new guy. The new 2nd guy so that does not give him the carries to really see what he can do for the Saints. I think we will see a guy with something to prove if he has to carry the load Sunday.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 12:02 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71977 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Top 5 and bottom 5 in
@PFF
's Elusive Rating (min. 20 carries):

1. Duke Johnson
2. Chris Carson
3. Alvin Kamara
4. Josh Jacobs
5. Latavius Murray

53. Kalen Ballage
54. LeSean McCoy
55. Sony Michel
56. David Johnson
57. Jon Hilliman


In the games murray actually got ample touches, he's performed

6/43
7/28
8/44

Had the nice screen play negated by penalty. Gotta give the man touches. Mark Ingram sucked for three years and yall wanna shite on murray after 3 games
Posted by YoubeHillin
Lake charles
Member since Sep 2019
671 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 3:46 pm to
Damn him to hell
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