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re: Cris Carter admits to placing bounties on players throughout his career
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:26 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:26 pm to Fun Bunch
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Evidence?
Private corporation
they don't owe you me or even their "employees" shitte
don't like it...well stop following the league, I have
I don't watch their network
I don't read their websites
I will watch the games the Saints play and only those
IMO, a much better way to deal with this as a fan than running around shouting from the rooftops about how this isn't "fair"
life ain't fir, get use to it
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Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:26 pm to Hoodoo Man
God forbid I start one thread on the MSB illustrating a clear example of the NFL blatantly lying about evidence.
Such a whiner.
Such a whiner.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:53 pm to Fun Bunch
Fool, I was talking to Marshy.
Damn, do you even look at who it says I'm replying to?
Damn, do you even look at who it says I'm replying to?
Posted on 5/9/12 at 2:15 pm to Hoodoo Man
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I was replying to him not you. Clicked the wrong button.
I was replying to him not you. Clicked the wrong button.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 2:16 pm to Fun Bunch
Come on now you two, band together in your dislike of marshy and everything will get better
Posted on 5/9/12 at 2:36 pm to stapuffmarshy
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stapuffmarshy
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Posted on 5/9/12 at 4:08 pm to DoubleDown
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I give up. Some of you guys are blind to why the punishments were handed down or just want to be homers.
I'll repeat - it wasn't any specific play(s) on the field that got the punishments. It's the fact that you were found/caught with a bounty system, warned, and continued to operate without regard to those warnings. That's why certain people got slammed.
Read what the NFL released. It is an accumulation of all the things the Saints are accused of doing that brought such harsh punishment.
Where is the proof of pay to injure, other than Williams running his mouth?
There was pay for performance, which is against the rules, as is lying about pay for performance, but the severity of the punishment revolves around pay to injure and lying about that.
Where is the pay for injury? Do you NOT see the difference???? Do you Not understand why we want the NFL to provide evidence???
Posted on 5/9/12 at 4:12 pm to stapuffmarshy
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IMO, a much better way to deal with this as a fan than running around shouting from the rooftops about how this isn't "fair"
Thank you for your opinion and showing us that a better way to deal with this as a fan is to bitch about the people bitching. I strive to be like you one day...until then, go frick yourself.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 4:17 pm to DoubleDown
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It's the fact that you were found/caught with a bounty system, warned, and continued to operate without regard to those warnings.
NFL cited the coverup/continuation as the main reasoning behind the punishment of the coaches and Loomis.
Go read the NFL's own release on the player suspensions. Only thing cited is the bounty system, no mention of coverup or continuing after being told to stop
Posted on 5/9/12 at 6:45 pm to DoubleDown
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DoubleDown
The penalties for the coaching staff would make sense for the argument about being penalized for not stopping after the warning. However, I do not feel that, that alone warrants punishment to specific players.
They haven't proven that Vilma paid anyone 10 grand (or any money for that matter) to knock people out. They also haven't shown any evidence of dirty play on the field from him.
If you want to punish the staff for not heeding a warning, I get it; but an entire year suspension for Vilma with zero evidence that he participated is over the top IMO.
That being said, if this is all about player safety, then how do you suspend someone for a year that you have no proof did anything, yet you have haynesworth blatantly stomp a guys helmetless head with a cleat and he got what...5 games?
Suh purposely kicks a man while he's down, and gets 2 games?
For me, it's not even about the actions or the punishment itself. It's about the consistency of Goodell's rulings.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:16 pm to DoubleDown
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Carter was defending the Saints in the sense that "pay for whatever" schemes have been around forever. However, he was not defending the act of targetting specific players.
but yet he "targeted" Romanowski? I thought I had seen that
He did indeed target specific players, he admitted as much, just not knowingly.
CC stated that if he heard a player was out to get him, that guy got a bounty for protection?
Way TOO much contradiction in CC's statements and stories
Posted on 5/10/12 at 8:55 am to DoubleDown
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It's the fact that you were found/caught with a bounty system, warned, and continued to operate without regard to those warnings
Really? Caught with what evidence? The coaches really can't do anything about the suspensions, and I understand it. But, if after all this is over, if it's found out that there was a pay for performance program in place like every other NFL team, and we lost our head coach for a year because of it........tell me that isn't completely stupid. After seeing the idiocy of the NFL in full tilt, I'd hardly call the "take my word for it" approach valid in this scenario.
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 8:58 am
Posted on 5/10/12 at 12:00 pm to jdrumdog
Hey, I've said for weeks now that the evidence should be laid out by the NFL. Apparently, they don't want to because it'll "out" players but seems like most have already been "outted" anyways.
I can't argue with you there, I'm not the NFL and I haven't seen the "evidence". They might as well lay it out though unless they're gonna wait till football season - in which case, everyone will forget.
I can't argue with you there, I'm not the NFL and I haven't seen the "evidence". They might as well lay it out though unless they're gonna wait till football season - in which case, everyone will forget.
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