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Contrast the ruling in Olave’s nonTD and the Pats one ruled a catch vs Latimore

Posted on 10/8/23 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 2:45 pm
I may not be remembering it right, been working and half watching, but wasn’t the Patriots one ruled a catch because Latimore dislodge the ball after his backside was on the ground?
Posted by infantry1026
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 2:47 pm to
And Olave had a few steps, where the Patriots catch did not have that element
Posted by msstate7
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 2:48 pm to
Think the difference was down by contact
Posted by Deuce McWin
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 2:48 pm to
You know why its different.
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 2:49 pm to
Both calls were correct amazingly
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 2:55 pm to
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Think the difference was down by contact


Kinda makes sense but also kinda seems like possession all the way through would mean if it gets knocked out that’s not possession all the way through.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 3:05 pm to
Also, why is it automatically a td if it touches the red pylon then and doesn’t matter what happens after? Cross the goal line; it’s a score is what they always preach
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 4:04 pm to
If Olave didn’t drop the damn ball every time he hit the ground it wouldn’t matter

Dude basically rinsed 100 yards worth of offense today due to drops and not getting his feet down.
This post was edited on 10/8/23 at 4:05 pm
Posted by MONROE
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 4:05 pm to
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If Olave didn’t drop the damn ball every time he hit the ground it wouldn’t matter


He’s weak as hell
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 4:17 pm to
Bottom 97th percentile frame in NFL combine history

Dude’s got to get in the weight room if he wants to be great instead of good.
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 4:41 pm to
I thought Olave caught the ball just outside of the endzone and crossed the line. Should’ve been a TD no matter what happened on the ground.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 5:05 pm to
That’s why I was confused also
Posted by LSUgrad88
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:17 pm to
I think the biggest clear difference is the catch by the Patriot receiver was ruled a catch on the field and it stood. Olave's play was ruled no catch on the field. I personally thought both were not catches, but I can say with certainty that I have no clear idea of what a catch is in the NFL through years of inconsistent officiating.
Posted by LSUgrad88
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:23 pm to
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Also, why is it automatically a td if it touches the red pylon then and doesn’t matter what happens after? Cross the goal line; it’s a score is what they always preach


That's if the player crossing the pylon has possession. Once you break the plane of the goal line WITH POSSESSION the play is over at that point. They said Olave never fully gained possession (rightly or wrongly) because he didn't hold the ball through going to the ground.
Posted by tigersbb
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:13 am to

Olave had possession and made a football move with his two steps before he fell to the ground. He didn't fall to the ground in the process of making the catch which is typically when the catch is overturned.
Posted by Geaux14999
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 7:38 am to
It really is amazing that the NFL has made the definition of a catch so convoluted that nobody knows what a catch actually is anymore.
Posted by Froman
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 8:02 am to
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It really is amazing that the NFL has made the definition of a catch so convoluted that nobody knows what a catch actually is anymore.


And it is interpreted differently each game.
Posted by Geaux14999
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 8:30 am to
Which is the biggest problem with the entirety of the NFL officials. It's like they all read different rule books from week to week.

That on top of them all feeling like they need to be the center of attention and insert themselves into every single play. The amount of flags this year in every game seem higher than ever. Through week 5, minus tonite of course, there have been 963 penalties total. There were 3,154 in all of 2022.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:27 pm to
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I may not be remembering it right, been working and half watching, but wasn’t the Patriots one ruled a catch because Latimore dislodge the ball after his backside was on the ground?


Olave’s wasn’t a catch. He only took 2 steps and lost it when he hit the ground.

The ruling on the Patriot one was that the ball was secured with the player down and then the ball was jarred loose.

I don’t agree with that. The guy was out cold and the ball was just laying on him…not secure. But it’s a reasonable argument and different than the Olave catch.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:30 pm to
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Also, why is it automatically a td if it touches the red pylon then and doesn’t matter what happens after? Cross the goal line; it’s a score is what they always preach


I don’t think that’s true.

A player still has to complete the catch.
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