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Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:17 am to Volkosoby
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:32 am to bigpoppadiesel35
This thread will go 40 pages
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:46 am to Volkosoby
The thing that people need to ask themselves is what would you be willing to trade to get Patrick Maholmes? I am not saying Burrow is Maholmes, but if you don't have a franchise QB and you think you can get draft a franchise QB, you have to try to get him.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:53 am to TaddT189
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Davenport alone is worth two 1st round picks.
I'd give Davenport for Burrow.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:55 am to Seeker
I've read previous Swimmer threads on SR, but I think this is crazy.
I understand the logic of getting a new franchise QB to build the future, but giving up that much is absolutely insane. I feel like people are missing how special Michael Thomas really is. The dude is literally insanely driven to be the best receiver of all time, and if he keeps going and stays healthy, he will be. He's the most reliable receiver I've ever seen in my life. When the ball is thrown his way, I 100% expect it to be caught. Not only was there no drop-off in work ethic or production after he got paid, but the dude actually got better.
Michael Thomas is untouchable in my mind. He, like Drew, makes everyone else around him better. At this point he is the most important player on the Saints' roster IMO.
eta: all of this is said not to mention the fact that Burrow is completely unproven in the NFL. I am a huge LSU fan and an alum. I almost cried Monday night. Maybe Burrow turns out to be the GOAT, or maybe he busts. I have to think he's going to be pretty great in the NFL, but his future is unknown. Michael Thomas is a known.
I understand the logic of getting a new franchise QB to build the future, but giving up that much is absolutely insane. I feel like people are missing how special Michael Thomas really is. The dude is literally insanely driven to be the best receiver of all time, and if he keeps going and stays healthy, he will be. He's the most reliable receiver I've ever seen in my life. When the ball is thrown his way, I 100% expect it to be caught. Not only was there no drop-off in work ethic or production after he got paid, but the dude actually got better.
Michael Thomas is untouchable in my mind. He, like Drew, makes everyone else around him better. At this point he is the most important player on the Saints' roster IMO.
eta: all of this is said not to mention the fact that Burrow is completely unproven in the NFL. I am a huge LSU fan and an alum. I almost cried Monday night. Maybe Burrow turns out to be the GOAT, or maybe he busts. I have to think he's going to be pretty great in the NFL, but his future is unknown. Michael Thomas is a known.
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:11 am to bluemoons
I am not saying I disagree with you or that I believe this is even a possibility for a trade. What I am saying is that for argument's sake, if you had a chance to trade for Pat Maholmes tomorrow, what would you be willing to give up because whatever that threshold is, you have to be willing to trade that for a prospect that you believe is a franchise QB. They are extremely hard to find.
So what would you be willing to trade for PM and apply it to Burrow. Again I am not saying they are the same player, but you have to take that shot if it is available to get a franchise QB, especially one that looks to fit Payton's system so well.
So what would you be willing to trade for PM and apply it to Burrow. Again I am not saying they are the same player, but you have to take that shot if it is available to get a franchise QB, especially one that looks to fit Payton's system so well.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:39 am to bluemoons
I'd rather lose Wafford and Davenport or even Lattimore before MT. Even Kamara.
Trading Kamara would be the Jimmy Graham trade again imo. Nobody uses him like Payton did.
Trading Kamara would be the Jimmy Graham trade again imo. Nobody uses him like Payton did.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:50 am to Seeker
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I am not saying I disagree with you or that I believe this is even a possibility for a trade. What I am saying is that for argument's sake, if you had a chance to trade for Pat Maholmes tomorrow, what would you be willing to give up because whatever that threshold is, you have to be willing to trade that for a prospect that you believe is a franchise QB. They are extremely hard to find.
I really just responded to your post because it was above mine, but I understand. I'm honestly not sure if I would trade Michael Thomas for Pat Mahomes, even though Mahomes is relatively proven. I would give up a lot, but I've seen more players like Pat Mahomes in my life than Michael Thomas. If anything, it's an interesting discussion to have.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:06 am to Volkosoby
I'd say Thomas is the only untouchable.
That's absurd. Kamara and 2 #1s and 2s should be plenty.
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Thomas, Kamara, 2 #1s and 2 #2s
That's absurd. Kamara and 2 #1s and 2s should be plenty.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:40 am to bluemoons
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I'm honestly not sure if I would trade Michael Thomas for Pat Mahomes
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:42 am to TH03
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That's absurd. Kamara and 2 #1s and 2s should be plenty.
For Big Dick Joe? Nah man we better bring the full load
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 11:45 am
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:55 am to TH03
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That's absurd. Kamara and 2 #1s and 2s should be plenty.
Any team with the 1 would laugh their asses off.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 12:12 pm to St Augustine
For reference:
1st overall, 4th round, and 6th round picks were traded for
2 1sts (15th overall, 1 future)
2 2nds (43,45)
2 3rds (76th overall, 1 future)
That was for goff. I imagine it'd be more for burrow.
1st overall, 4th round, and 6th round picks were traded for
2 1sts (15th overall, 1 future)
2 2nds (43,45)
2 3rds (76th overall, 1 future)
That was for goff. I imagine it'd be more for burrow.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 12:46 pm to bluemoons
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The dude is literally insanely driven to be the best receiver of all time, and if he keeps going and stays healthy, he will be.
Thomas is a great player, but come on now. He's no Jerry Rice and would have to basically replicate the season he just had for another decade to even be compared to possibly the greatest football player at any position.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:06 pm to htran90
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For reference:
1st overall, 4th round, and 6th round picks were traded for
2 1sts (15th overall, 1 future)
2 2nds (43,45)
2 3rds (76th overall, 1 future)
That was for goff. I imagine it'd be more for burrow.
And our 1st this year is much worse (24) and we don't have a 2nd, so....
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:45 pm to saints5021
Of course that is easy to say right now. Mahomes has had a great start to his pro career. However many people did not know much about him before the draft and many were shocked that the Saints were to draft him at 11. We got Lattimore anyway so it worked out, but Mahomes was who Sean wanted. That was with Drew still having a couple of good years in him, so Mahomes would have likely sat for at least a year and Sean still wanted him.
No one knew Mahomes would be this good or he would have gone #1 overall, but Sean and Reid wanted him. Point being is if you see a QB that you confidently believe is a franchise QB and would fit your system as well as Mahomes or Burrow, there is a lot you would trade to get that player.
So again the question is, how much would you be willing to trade to get Mahomes right now? Whatever that price is, you have to be willing to pay it for a shot at getting Burrow. They are not the same QB, but the need for a franchise QB in the NFL remains the same.
No one knew Mahomes would be this good or he would have gone #1 overall, but Sean and Reid wanted him. Point being is if you see a QB that you confidently believe is a franchise QB and would fit your system as well as Mahomes or Burrow, there is a lot you would trade to get that player.
So again the question is, how much would you be willing to trade to get Mahomes right now? Whatever that price is, you have to be willing to pay it for a shot at getting Burrow. They are not the same QB, but the need for a franchise QB in the NFL remains the same.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:52 pm to MusclesofBrussels
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Thomas is a great player, but come on now. He's no Jerry Rice and would have to basically replicate the season he just had for another decade to even be compared to possibly the greatest football player at any position.
Hence the "if he keeps going and stays healthy" part. Watching Michael Thomas has taught me not to doubt the goals that he has for himself, and he's stated numerous times that he wants to be the greatest of all time. He seems to be genuinely motivated by people saying exactly what you just said.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:53 pm to Seeker
It just depends on the layout of the trade. You have to think a stud player or two and a couple of top picks. The way we have been drafting I’d be more willing to part with more players with high salaries than more high picks. Either way, I think there’s certainly a potential way to pull it off.
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