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Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:29 am to Lester Earl
Lesty, the bookmarks say it’s about the player to some folks 
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:30 am to Lester Earl
I agree, but we also got a very good player as opposed to the shite players we usually trade up for, so I am going to just be happy with the player we got and move on.
Its kinda time to stop re-litigating the trade. It wasn't great, but we have the player.
I doubt there were many that were more critical of the trade than me. I hated it at the time and melted a bit, and still think it was a poor trade.
But crying over spilled milk and all that
Its kinda time to stop re-litigating the trade. It wasn't great, but we have the player.
I doubt there were many that were more critical of the trade than me. I hated it at the time and melted a bit, and still think it was a poor trade.
But crying over spilled milk and all that
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 9:32 am
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:42 am to GynoSandberg
Call em out Sandy
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:54 am to Lester Earl
You know now is not the time
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:33 am to Lester Earl
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Good player, terrible trade. Both can be true bunchie
Think the terrible trade part is Penning.
Olave trade (16th, 98th, and 120th) for the 11th overall pick I'd do again. You could bet the 18th pick wouldn't have mattered much in the grand scheme of things.
The initial trade to get 16th (trading 18th & future 1st/2nd for 16th, 19th, etc) is what I wouldn't have done.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 10:34 am
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:47 am to htran90
The trade doesn’t have anything to do with Penning
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:09 pm to Lester Earl
The entirety of it does, wouldn't you think?
We traded with Philly first to get an extra 1st at the cost of a 1st and 2nd.
The move to get Olave costed an additional 3rd/4th. All things considered, you don't think a 1st/3rd/4th to move up and pick arguably the best WR from that class (also arguably a top 16 #1wr by most metrics from last year) isn't worth it? Particularly with how the rest of the draft went as well?
We traded with Philly first to get an extra 1st at the cost of a 1st and 2nd.
The move to get Olave costed an additional 3rd/4th. All things considered, you don't think a 1st/3rd/4th to move up and pick arguably the best WR from that class (also arguably a top 16 #1wr by most metrics from last year) isn't worth it? Particularly with how the rest of the draft went as well?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:45 pm to htran90
2023 1st
2024 2nd
2022 3rd
2022 3rd
2022 4th
Is a hell of a haul for any WR
Considering the guy who iced the game cost the Saints nothing. WRs are not hard to find
2024 2nd
2022 3rd
2022 3rd
2022 4th
Is a hell of a haul for any WR
Considering the guy who iced the game cost the Saints nothing. WRs are not hard to find
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:55 pm to Lester Earl
You're mixing and matching the eagles trade with the commanders trade.
It was 16 with a 3rd and 4th.
With that thought, how come we've struggled so hard to find receivers then? For every Rashid there's 10 other guys like kirklin
It was 16 with a 3rd and 4th.
With that thought, how come we've struggled so hard to find receivers then? For every Rashid there's 10 other guys like kirklin
Posted on 9/14/23 at 1:21 pm to htran90
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You're mixing and matching the eagles trade with the commanders trade.
They have to be mixed because you don’t have the draft capital to make the trade otherwise.
quote:
With that thought, how come we've struggled so hard to find receivers then? For every Rashid there's 10 other guys like kirklin
Complacency & poor drafting, mainly.
The best way to hit on players is to have draft picks. Not trade them away for 1 player
Posted on 9/14/23 at 6:51 pm to Lester Earl
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They have to be mixed because you don’t have the draft capital to make the trade otherwise.
The only capital that was not ours was the 16th pick (instead of the 18th).
98th - ours
120th - ours
At the most, take away the philly trade and value wise --- easily have given up another 4th or 2 3rds instead of 1 3rd and 1 4th to make up for the loss of 2 spots.
quote:
Complacency & poor drafting, mainly.
I can agree with poor drafting
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The best way to hit on players is to have draft picks. Not trade them away for 1 player
I can also agree, however I think hindsight and even in the moment the philly trade was absolutely the worse of the 2. Penning was a project with high upside, but what we gave up initially to even get a 2nd 1st was absolutely ridiculous.
Also to be fair to the wide receiver gripe:
Olave - 18th in yards
The 17 guys infront of him:
8 - 1st
4 - 2nd
2 - 3rd (TE - Kelce)
1 - 4th
2 - 5th
Essentially half of them were 1st round picks; you either get lucky with the stefon diggs, character guys like hill, or you get busts like the other 10 non-1st round guys who are busts (Dorian Green-Beckham, Devin Funchess, etc).
Obviously you have your opinion -- mine is that the Commanders trade to get Olave trade wasn't the issue, the initial eagles trade to get an additional 1st was the bigger one. It ended up costing us a shot at jalen carter who's a monster DT.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:56 pm to htran90
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mine is that the Commanders trade to get Olave trade wasn't the issue, the initial eagles trade to get an additional 1st was the bigger one
holy mental gymnastics.
If that makes you feel better about it, good for you
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:29 pm to DBG
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:30 pm to Lester Earl
He’s a bum
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