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Carr could be our Alex Smith - a bridge to our Mahomes

Posted on 2/16/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
2695 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 1:45 pm
Just to point out that KC did not tank for Mahomes - they had the 27th pick that draft. Philadelphia didn't tank for Jalen Hurts. Hell, Buffalo didn't tank for Allen, San Diego didn't tank for Herbert. The path to success in the NFL is to build a good winning team, then when you have a shot at a young QB in the draft he can be plugged in to bring the program to the next level (maybe after learning for a season behind the vet). Talk of tanking is stupid - you can't pin your hopes on one wild desperation swing for a QB that might flop or just get ruined by taking a beating on a bad team.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32446 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 1:53 pm to
You tank for stars like Jamarcus Russell, Johnny Football, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff, Jameis Winston, etc.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77177 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 1:55 pm to
The debate has mainly been the cost not his skills to play the position.
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
13057 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 1:57 pm to
Maybe, but I'm pretty sure DA is not our Andy Reid.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10228 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:18 pm to
I could also have sexual relations with Shakira.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:03 pm to
Andy Dalton could also be a bridge to our Mahomes

Why pay $15M more a year for a bridge QB?
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:27 pm to
quote:


Why pay $15M more a year for a bridge QB?





Agreed, if you're throwing a ton of ?? ney at a quarterback that you plan to build around then go for it.

But if you're paying someone over 10 million more than the last guy, I need results, not the hope that we may win one more game and make the playoffs as the loser of a loser division
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72491 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:28 pm to
Going to be harder and harder to build that team though with all the money we push forward AND paying a good not great qb.

If we were a fiscally responsible team I’d be all for Carr. We’re not. We’d basically be a poor man’s version of what we were in Bree’s’ twilight years with less depth.
Posted by matty3387
Metairie
Member since May 2018
1700 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 5:06 pm to
That's why you draft hooker
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:28 pm to

We already missed our Mahommes

Thanks to Sean Payton
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
2695 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:02 pm to
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Andy Dalton could also be a bridge to our Mahomes


Andy Dalton = tank. No one in the NFL, other than a delusional segment of the Saints fan base, thinks Dalton is anywhere near the zip code of Derek Carr.
Posted by 5iveEuax4eaux
Member since Jan 2020
706 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:08 pm to
That is assuming we have the coach and gm to identify the next guy and make the trade to go get him
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77177 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:10 pm to
Like you are assuming we still have a team in NOLA.
Posted by big d 18
Member since Dec 2021
1424 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25428 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:05 pm to
Statistically, most franchise QB's are first round picks and particularly early first round picks. Sure, the hit rate is low and most likely you wind up with a bust, but that low hit rate is still much higher than later round QB's.

Also, statistically, you aren't competing for championships in this league without a franchise or even often an upper tier QB unless you have an all time great defense. There's a lot of incentive to take that chance at going after a top prospect in the draft because otherwise you probably aren't winning anything anyway.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12527 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:55 pm to
Someone listens to Russillo
Posted by 5iveEuax4eaux
Member since Jan 2020
706 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:53 pm to
That's not an assumption. As of now we have a team. And as of now we have a coach and a gm who have 0 history of making any moves of significance without Payton
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31639 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 8:55 am to
We need to accept the fact that Carr doesn’t want to come here. That’s pretty telling on the state of the organization.

Dark times ahead, baws.
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
2695 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

We need to accept the fact that Carr doesn’t want to come here.


That may well be true. He may worry about our cap situation or whether there will be a new regime in charge after one season of his new contract. Understandable. I still don't believe we should tank. It just doesn't work reliably in the NFL and could easily put us in a prolonged suck spiral. Gotta play to win.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 2/19/23 at 2:10 am to
Never going to have anything good in our lifetimes again.

Next time we have a SB, fans will look back on us like we look at people on the titanic or those people in paintings watching two guys duel with single shot pistols
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