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Can you name any franchise/top league talent on current roster?
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:43 pm
Guy is trying to argue with me that saints is a good destination appeal for top head coach candidates. Im trying to say the saints are basically at the bottom of the barrel for many reasons.
My big argument to him is if he can name any franchise players/or top league talent (top 7 at their position) that you could build your roster around for a rebuild.
Can you name any with specific reasoning behind the player?
My big argument to him is if he can name any franchise players/or top league talent (top 7 at their position) that you could build your roster around for a rebuild.
Can you name any with specific reasoning behind the player?
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:45 pm to The Dunder Mifflin
Bresee and Tualaga are red chippers who should become blue. Olave was a red chipper until his concussions. Our young secondary guys too inconsistent to be considered red chip and Jordan, Mathieu, Davis, Taysom are too old to be considered blue or red chip players anymore.
McCoy is likely a red chip player but I'm not sure of his age or contract status. Kamara is still a blue or red chip player but likely only a year or two before he falls off
Blue chip - top 1 to 15 position player in league (depending on position)
Red chip - 6th to ~ 25th best position player in league (depending on position)
McCoy is likely a red chip player but I'm not sure of his age or contract status. Kamara is still a blue or red chip player but likely only a year or two before he falls off
Blue chip - top 1 to 15 position player in league (depending on position)
Red chip - 6th to ~ 25th best position player in league (depending on position)
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 12:08 am
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:53 pm to SirWinston
quote:you summed it pretty well. Personally I wouldn’t consider bresee and tualaga franchise/elite talent just yet. But they both look good and have really good potential to develop into that. Both are great pieces to start with building the roster
Bresee and Tualaga are blue chippers. Olave was a red chipper until his concussions. Our young secondary guys too inconsistent to be considered red chip and Jordan, Mathieu, Davis, Taysom are too old to be considered blue or red chip players anymore. McCoy is likely a red chip player but I'm not sure of his age or contract status. Kamara is still a blue or red chip player but likely only a year or two before he falls off
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:04 am to The Dunder Mifflin
Yeah they are red chippers now but I'm thinking they both continue to improve and will become blue
Btw:
Hendrickson - blue chipper last 4 years
Baun - red chipper
Anzalone - red chipper
Missed out on 1 or 2 blue or red chippers in the Olave and Penning draft and now have 0 in return with Olave a huge question mark and Penning being average to below average, plus the picks we gave up.
Btw:
Hendrickson - blue chipper last 4 years
Baun - red chipper
Anzalone - red chipper
Missed out on 1 or 2 blue or red chippers in the Olave and Penning draft and now have 0 in return with Olave a huge question mark and Penning being average to below average, plus the picks we gave up.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 12:07 am
Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:21 am to SirWinston
quote:
Baun - red chipper Anzalone - red chipper
So Baun is a red chipper when he was just voted first team all-pro? And same as Anzalone?
That’s literally top 3 in his position group…
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 2:22 am
Posted on 1/19/25 at 9:24 am to The Dunder Mifflin
McCoy is probably our best player.
Fuaga and Breese are the only other two you're likely really excited about past the next year or two. With that they certainly aren't elite yet and could easily end up just being very good not great players. You could throw Olave in there if you felt more confident about his longevity (although I think it's a real possibility they don't resign him for the money he will want).
Fuaga and Breese are the only other two you're likely really excited about past the next year or two. With that they certainly aren't elite yet and could easily end up just being very good not great players. You could throw Olave in there if you felt more confident about his longevity (although I think it's a real possibility they don't resign him for the money he will want).
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 9:25 am
Posted on 1/19/25 at 9:37 am to St Augustine
quote:he will probably want a good pay day, which is fine because he is a good receiver. But the red flag at this point in is career is the concussions. Gonna end up like tua eventually, I wouldn’t pay him for the second contract
You could throw Olave in there if you felt more confident about his longevity (although I think it's a real possibility they don't resign him for the money he will want).
Posted on 1/19/25 at 9:45 am to The Dunder Mifflin
I wouldn’t either and would honest trade him for a top half draft pick if you can get it. You’re just playing the odds at this point and that’s fine while he’s on a rookie deal. It isn’t when you actually have to pay him.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 10:30 am
Posted on 1/19/25 at 10:45 am to St Augustine
quote:
Fuaga and Breese are the only other two you're likely really excited about past the next year or two.
We’re not void of talent outside of Fuaga and Breese.
Shaheed is dynamic
Miller can definitely develop
Alonte is the typical player we don’t resign and goes elsewhere to be all pro
Grupe is a keeper
Ridgeway will develop into a nice piece
Penning will come around with a new coaching staff
Willie Gay was injured all season. In the right defense he can rush the passer and be elite.
Amadi is great depth
MVS needs to be resigned
Posted on 1/19/25 at 10:47 am to The Dunder Mifflin
No I cannot. But I don't think that's the biggest problem. That would be the lack 4 and 3 star guys. Our quality of depth looks to be the worst in the league.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 10:51 am to Mouth
quote:
We’re not void of talent outside of Fuaga and Breese.
Didn’t say we are. But this thread is about top talent.
Most of your examples are of the optimistic variety as opposed to the likely one. Every team in the league has a few dozen of those.
A lot of those guys are depth/barely above league average players or players you’re going to have to decide if you want to actually pay after major injuries.
Some of them like MVS maybe below. He had a nice statistical game or two for us due to pure necessity being forece fed, but if the guy didn’t figure it out consistently with Allen, Mahomes, late prime Rodgers by 30 years old he’s just a 4th wr on any decent offense at this point.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 10:59 am
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:01 am to The Dunder Mifflin
Breese is ok, but not a blue chip. U just run at him
Posted on 1/19/25 at 7:43 pm to St Augustine
quote:
A lot of those guys are depth/barely above league average players or players you’re going to have to decide if you want to actually pay after major injuries.
Yeah I know.
But we have a lot of those guys. With the right staff we can develop a lot of talent that is sitting dormant.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:19 pm to Mouth
quote:
We’re not void of talent outside of Fuaga and Breese.
It’s a bottom 5 roster considering the age of its former top players. Don’t kid yourself that a coach can come in and have us playing football 1 year from today, it’s not happening.
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