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re: Brees to Jimmy TD overturned

Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:08 am to
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I have no idea how. It was there plain as day. cleats flicks white grass up into the air.


No they didn't. I saw that replay and I did not see what they were talking about. Don't listen to them, bro. They got you to believe what they said. That was the wrong call. Plain and simple.
Posted by Jamohn
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:10 am to
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horsecrap

why do you have to have both feet in when every week i see tip toe catches all the time?

there's no heel in those catches.. so therefore u don't have to have the entire foot. right?
Dude. Did I seriously just waste all that fricking time typing all this shite for you to ask this on the same fricking page?
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It's really simple. When you drag your toes and then pick your feet up or just fall over, the only thing that touched the ground on that particular step was the toe. If you tap your heel inbounds with your toes up and then pick up your foot without your toes touching the ground, you've completed a step and are inbounds. There is nothing that says that a complete step has to include a whole foot, but if the complete step DOES include a whole foot, then that whole foot has to land inbounds, regardless of which part of the foot hits first.

Graham's heel hit inbounds, followed by his toes hitting out of bounds all as part of a single step, so he was out. Had Graham's heel hit and then he picked up his foot before the toes hit out and just fell to the ground, it would've been inbounds and a TD.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:11 am to
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No they didn't. I saw that replay and I did not see what they were talking about. Don't listen to them, bro. They got you to believe what they said. That was the wrong call. Plain and simple.


That's it. Exit stage right and GTFO off this board now. To simply deny fricking visual evidence, it's beyond fricking retarded.
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:13 am to
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To simply deny fricking visual evidence,


Visual evidence that is not there and could have been doctored in later? Give me a break.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 10:14 am
Posted by iluvla
Member since Sep 2010
196 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:15 am to
i had jimmy on my fantasy team too, and that call cost me the game. I will never understand breaking the plane vs. 1 foot a heel,and a knee in the endzone.
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:16 am to
I'm convinced they make it up.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97107 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:17 am to
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No they didn't.


Yes they did. If you are really disagreeing with that then you can't be helped.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:17 am to
I didn't see a blade of grass flick up. That last angle Fox showed just before the refs came back to make the call definitely showed that toe never touched the ground.

I'm not one to say the refs were against the Saints or out to get us, but I do believe they made the wrong call there. And I was appalled at how quickly they determined Locker made that TD.. it looked like there were NO good angles for that, it seems like it would have been a very long review, not 10 seconds. That game was horribly officiated, the refs took over and it was tough to watch.

@deathrider
Do you HONESTLY and REALLY believe the doctored the footage? REALLY? Come on.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 10:19 am
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:17 am to
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Visual evidence that is not there and could have been doctored in later?


the conspiracists!

not only does espn hate us but the refs are conspiring now. it's rigged!
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97107 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:19 am to
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why do you have to have both feet in when every week i see tip toe catches all the time?


its like you just started watching football. to not understand the difference between those types of plays is sorta sad.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97107 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:20 am to
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That last angle Fox showed just before the refs came back to make the call definitely showed that toe never touched the ground.


No after the kickoff joe bucks comes on and says "saints fan can rest because they did get the calll right" then they show a blowup slowmo and his cleat clear as day flicks up white grass. to say it didnt is just wrong.
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:20 am to
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@deathrider
Do you HONESTLY and REALLY believe the doctored the footage? REALLY? Come on.


It's possible they could do it, but I'm not going to bet my car on it.
Posted by Jamohn
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Member since Mar 2009
13605 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:21 am to
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the conspiracists!

not only does espn hate us but the refs are conspiring now. it's rigged!
The Zapruder replay clearly showed a second receiver on the white grassy knoll...
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:22 am to
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No after the kickoff joe bucks comes on and says "saints fan can rest because they did get the calll right" then they show a blowup slowmo and his cleat clear as day flicks up white grass. to say it didnt is just wrong.


That shot just before they showed the supposed blade of grass flick up told the true tale, imo. Not one part of his foot, including the toe and cleats, touched out of bounds. I didn't see white blades of grass flick up.. I saw a white piece of grass standing up prior to and after but I didn't see if that was the one they were talking about, nor did I see that same one bend. I just didn't see it. It's all a moot point now, but I didn't see it.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:23 am to
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I believe both calls were wrong and nothing will convince me otherwise. I wouldn't even accept a letter from the league office. Those refs were trying hard to screw the Saints and it was obvious


then you are a homer that can't rationally watch the saints, as a fan of neither team it was the right call
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97107 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:23 am to
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Not one part of his foot, including the toe and cleats, touched out of bounds


Im sorry but you are wrong. You are a good poster but you are incorrect here.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:27 am to
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Im sorry but you are wrong. You are a good poster but you are incorrect here.


I wish I could see that shot again. It was that shot that convinced even the announcers that he was in bounds.

I may be wrong, but until someone here gives video evidence of it and I can see that I was wrong, I'm sticking with what I remember seeing. As far as I saw, he was in bounds.
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13605 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:28 am to
The simple fact that there is this much debate about the replay means that there is no way a call on the field can be overturned based on that replay. End of story.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 10:29 am
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:30 am to
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The simple fact that there is this much debate about the replay means that there is no way a call on the field can be overturned based on that replay. End of story.


Actually, our debate has no bearing on the call on the field. Only the officials can do that and make a call.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:32 am to
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The simple fact that there is this much debate about the replay means that there is no way a call on the field can be overturned based on that replay. End of story.


Eh.. Not necessarily. It just means it all depends on what the refs saw. Apparently they saw a blade of grass get touched... which if it did, so be it. I just didn't see the same thing.
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