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re: Brees out for the year?

Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:48 pm to
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His arm was hit in the middle of his throwing motion. It wasn't a good look.



Nope. His shoulder moved forward while his arm moved backward.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 2:49 pm
Posted by IPlayedGreatTonight
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:50 pm to
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Rumors got the Keenan Lewis right.


the Keenan Lewis thing came out the next day too. it's getting awful late for a way bigger name to not have any concrete news.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:51 pm to
I don't think he got surgery, I'm saying it's a necessity post surgery. I'm saying to prevent a full tear while it heals (because a partial doesn't require surgery, it heals on its own) a sling is a great preventative measure so that you don't further injure it doing a variety of mundane activities, I'm just going out on a limb that if I had this concern about a guy I've invested so much money in, he's in a sling until I get all the answers and/or a decision is made.

Do I need to explain the fricking function of what a sling does? You realize throwing a football isn't the only thing drew Brees does with his right arm?
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:52 pm to
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Rumors got the Keenan Lewis right


Also the CJ Spiller surgery and cutting Jr.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:53 pm to
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It's pretty crazy how Brees has maintained his health while in New Orleans


Especially w/ the team's almost cavalier attitude towards obtaining/retaining good offensive linemen. You'd think they would want to invest a good line to protect their expensive franchise QB.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22535 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:54 pm to
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Nope. His shoulder moved forward while his arm moved backward.


The lack of arm strength & the inaccuracy he had after that made it look even worse. On that final throw from about 35 yards out, he had to loft the ball high just to get it to reach the endzone. His arm looked completely shot at that point.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70758 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:55 pm to
Can really tell on the resolution of the gif. From the pic depends on which way his arm was "forced" if it was brought into further external rotation (increased throwing motion) could be a tear of his subscapularis (front part of rc) or another labrum injury... Particularly given his history.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:55 pm to


This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 2:59 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:56 pm to
Cb spiller was spotted with a cast and crutches. They didn't see him walking around the mall looking stiff

Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:58 pm to
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You realize why he would have his arm in a sling immediately right? What don't you get about that? Partial or not, you immobilize the arm when you have a significant investment.


Don't care to add anything to the rumors but just relaying my experience. When I partially tore my rotator cuff playing football in HS I didn't realize it at first and had 99% of the movement in my shoulder. I could still throw a football, really do almost anything. But... if I raised my hand straight up in the air it was like someone shot me with a 30-06 in that shoulder. In fact with the exception of a little soreness for a couple of days after the hit I didn't notice it for 3 days. Found out the hard way raising my hand in class to answer a question and ended up on the floor with black dots swimming in my vision from the pain.
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:03 pm to
I partially tore my rotator cuff in 2013 in my left shoulder while bench pressing. I powerlift and still lifted pretty heavy at competition. I was never 100% though, more like 65%. Different movement tho from a throwing motion. It didn't heal up until about February this year, but that's with no surgery and not really resting it. I'm around Drew's age too. If it is partially torn, he needs to get it fixed asap. No need having him at 65% or lower.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25988 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:12 pm to
Scott Alexander on ESPN radio has all but said he does in fact have a torn rotator cuff.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:14 pm to
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stop posting this like fricking Barry Hirstius is going to break big news.


Look guys Barry is a good friend of mine and he is very connected. He is just as likely to have breaking Saints news as anyone else.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:14 pm to
He's playing both sides of the fence
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:14 pm to
My sources are saying surgery Wednesday.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:14 pm to
I'm sure. No one is saying it's impossible. No two people are the same, no two sets of circumstances are identical.

What you describe is pretty much what I'm talking about. If you elevate the arm, it's fricking painful. People do things instinctively, out of memory or out of necessity. There are any number of scenarios and likely outcomes

I'm considering a few things

1. This is a board rumor. Doesn't mean it is not true, only that it's likely untrue or a distortion of the truth

2. That Most rotator tears end up with the QB walking off the field. Roethlisberger played with a tear, but he left that game and he was holding the arm like it was dead

3. Common sense, if it was torn, likely it would be painful enough to need support, or at a minimum be in a sling to prevent any further tearing (if partial)

Either way, I believe the closest this thread comes to being accurate is that he has shoulder stiffness or soreness, maybe a sprained joint. Odds are he's not out for the season. And I hate fricking talking about this. He's on all 3 of my fantasy teams and the saints suck enough as it is...on the plus side, if true, we'll see what we have in Grayson maybe and we'll be getting the #1 overall pick
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81845 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:15 pm to
Well the "sources" are already 0 for 1
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:15 pm to
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Look guys Barry is a good friend of mine and he is very connected.



Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:16 pm to
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