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re: Attorney for Smith family / Attorney for Hayes l Press Conference Recap
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:08 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:08 pm to Boomshockalocka
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have you seen this video bunchie? I don't know how anyone could possibly say there's on impact. 1:25-1:30 into the video
I've watched it many times.
As I have said, many times, there is no affirmative, verifiable impact on video.
Anything else is simply the viewers inference.
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:08 pm to Lester Earl
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he very well could have been an untrained shooter. Shooting & aiming a handgun untrained is pretty difficult. The first initial shots are almost always off. Usually high, but if he was quickly drawing his weapon it could have went all over until he adjusted
yeah I know
I was just trying to point out that there is a million ways to argue this story.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:09 pm to LNCHBOX
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You still haven't shown where the hit 100% happened. You were blasting people left and right for speculating yesterday, but today you get to do it?
there's a video of it. I dont have to speculate. Everything about the video, from the Mercedes hitting the back of the hummer, to the Hummer pulling over, to Smith speeding off and running a red light confirms 100% that both cars made contact
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Those three questions that I provided answers for? Are those the questions you're talking about?
you didnt answer. If you did, you didnt respond to my post.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:09 pm to Fun Bunch
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Can you see how that would be pretty bad for Hayes, regardless of hit and runs, what was said, etc etc?
i still all depends on Smith & his gun. We already knew Smith was hit in the back
ETA: but of course, it could spell doom for Hayes. If he just shot Will unprovoked like Smith's attorney said. The pieces dont really fit that though.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:10 pm to Boomshockalocka
I dunno how anyone could say it didn't hit. I mean, it barely hit, but it hit.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:10 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Holy Biased bullshite batman
I've watched it many times.
As I have said, many times, there is no affirmative, verifiable impact on video.
Anything else is simply the viewers inference.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:11 pm to Lester Earl
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there's a video of it.
That is 100% clear? Not that I've seen.
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I dont have to speculate.
Except you are.
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Everything about the video, from the Mercedes hitting the back of the hummer, to the Hummer pulling over, to Smith speeding off and running a red light confirms 100% that both cars made contact
That's you speculating.
quote:
you didnt answer. If you did, you didnt respond to my post.
So are you just not reading the thread or what?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:11 pm to Fun Bunch
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Ok. Pretty much game over.
Can you see how that would be pretty bad for Hayes, regardless of hit and runs, what was said, etc etc?
It's going to come down to whether or not Will was reaching for a gun or had a gun already in his hand. I don't believe either has been said.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:12 pm to lsupride87
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Holy Biased bullshite batman
Wouldn't it be more biased to see something that isn't 100% clear in the video?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:12 pm to Fun Bunch
You sure? this is a new angle that just came out today.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:12 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Holy Biased bullshite batman
It's been going on all day. It's giving me a headache.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:12 pm to bwallcubfan
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It's going to come down to whether or not Will was reaching for a gun or had a gun already in his hand.
How would he have a gun in his hand if no visible weapons were found at the scene?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:13 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:No. It is 100% clear. The way your dumbass is talking, no video can ever be trusted. If there is a video of Hayes pulling the trigger of the gun, can we 100% trust it? What if it is someone with great makeup was impersonating him? Or what if a bumble bee landed on the trigger causing the gun to go off?
Wouldn't it be more biased to see something that isn't 100% clear in the video?
The video shows Smith hitting Hayes
Move on
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:13 pm to CocoLoco
Yea the hummer was decelerating and then at impact it surged forward a bit. Pretty clearly IMO.
I'll add that I don't think this collision is as meaningful to Hayes defense as the second collision. IF Hayes is the aggressor in the second impact I'd have a hard time believing the self defense claim. If Smith slammed on his brakes and Hayes hit him then Hayes story makes more sense. Really want to see the second impact.
I'll add that I don't think this collision is as meaningful to Hayes defense as the second collision. IF Hayes is the aggressor in the second impact I'd have a hard time believing the self defense claim. If Smith slammed on his brakes and Hayes hit him then Hayes story makes more sense. Really want to see the second impact.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:14 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
So are you just not reading the thread or what?
again, show me where you answered the 3 questions i listed on page 4.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:15 pm to lsupride87
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It is 100% clear.
No it's not.
quote:
The way your dumbass is talking, no video can ever be trusted.
Wrong, but this video doesn't 100% show a collision.
quote:Strawman is strawy.
If there is a video of Hayes pulling the trigger of the gun, can we 100% trust it? What if it is someone with great makeup was impersonating him? Or what if a bumble bee landed on the trigger causing the gun to go off?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:15 pm to Lester Earl
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again, show me where you answered the 3 questions i listed on page 4.
Go find it yourself. That's how you operate.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:15 pm to LNCHBOX
Watch the new video Boom posted. If you cant see contact, and then Hayes car surge forward from contact, then you are a liar.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:16 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Yes, it 100% does.
Wrong, but this video doesn't 100% show a collision.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:16 pm to LNCHBOX
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How would he have a gun in his hand if no visible weapons were found at the scene?
One thing I'd add is, did Will tell Hayes he's going to get his gun....therefore Hayes feared for his life.
I'd say Hayes is guilty if that didn't happen combined with no visible weapon found.
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