re: Attorney for Smith family / Attorney for Hayes l Press Conference Recap

I really wish we could all be put to sleep until all the evidence was gathered and testimony completed. And then we can discuss. Because alot of us are solid people, who are arguing possibilities without knowing There are a few assholes on each side who think they are "right," but for the most part it is people arguing over possible situations

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What don't you White Knighters get about this? I'm so perplexed

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Are you still under the assumption he shot RS while she was walking back to the Mercedes?

Otherwise you're the one not getting it

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I just think that there is a group on here that desperately wants Smith to be the bad guy here, and literally everything that happens they are jumping with glee and trying to spin it in a way to get Hayes off. I truly don't understand it, its very bizarre

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Nvm I get you're angle

I think you badly want to believe the above paragraph.

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Sorry I don't have more details. My friend is a little freaked out and stressed to the max. I can't really push him. He didn't even call me back last night. I had to call him again, today.

What I got from it (could be wrong), smith and shooter arguing while Raquel went for the gun. Shooter shot her deliberately to stop her, then shot Will.

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So Hayes, while struggling with a 6'3 270lb Smith, was able to get off 2 extremely accurate rounds to her legs then popped Smith at close range? That would mean that Hayes got out and confronted Smith at his car with his gun in his hand. That makes him the aggressor does it not?

He said arguing not struggling


I don't care how big Hayes is, he's not popping one in each knee of RS while struggling with an all pro NFL DL

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Either way, how the frick did that cat get 2 extremely accurate shots to the legs around a fricking NFL DL?

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How do you know they were accurate? He might have been aiming for her head

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I'm under the assumption that no one knows a goddamn thing

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Exactly

Which is odd that you're condemning one side or another, considering what we all know to be the facts?

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There was a group of people on here literally directly after it happened already knighting hard for Hayes, before there was even a sliver of thought about self-defense. It was truly a bizarre stance at the time and its carried o

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Cmon man

I was in those threads directly after it went down. The people who were waiting for the facts (the white knighters in this case) all of a sudden were thought of as Hayes supporters. You seem to be in the camp of waiting for facts based upon your above statement, so I don't see why you're acting like we want Hayes to get off the hook

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I just find the whole phenomenon on here to be quite weird. I really don't particularly care what happens in this case one way or the other, as long as its the right result.

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Dude, these die hard saint fans are going to go bonkers if Hayes is exonerated. There is going to be tons of public backlash.

I honestly have not seen anyone who would be upset if the facts say Hayes is guilty.


Think about what you're saying. You seriously think people are gonna be upset if the facts show Hayes is a cold blooded killer? You and others are operating under this assumption and its ludicrous

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What I got from it (could be wrong), smith and shooter arguing while Raquel went for the gun. Shooter shot her deliberately to stop her, then shot Will.

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This doesn't quite add up to what Smith's attorney described.

After the Smiths thought the matter had been defused, I understood them to have walked back to their driver's door. Will was between the Shooter and Racquel and she would have been facing him while Will was not. There were no diagrams to show where the Shooter was standing at this time and I don't remember everything he said.

If Racquel had been "going for the gun" it means that the Shooter re-approached them at their car door and didn't allow her to step closer to the vehicle to get the gun.

She is then shot in both legs and crawls off toward the sidewalk as Will is taking shots to the back.

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This doesn't quite add up to what Smith's attorney described.

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I wouldnt put too much stock in the attorney, on either side

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rom article, sure doesn't sound like racquel was reaching into a vehicle for a gun if she's standing next to Will on driver's side.

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Well, color me shocked Thomson wouldnt say his client was reaching for a gun


ETA: I am in no way saying she was. But no shite her attorney wouldnt say that