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Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:05 pm to Deactived
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This is why you cant argue with Lnchbox. You can be 4 pages into a back and forth with him and he will harp on one little nit picky thing(most of the time it has nothing to do or little to do with the argument) and keep driving that nail in. Its why most just say frick it dude whatever
We're discussing speculation and he changes his speculation with every post. That's not a me issue. I do love that you try to always act like I'm the problem though.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:07 pm to LNCHBOX
Fuller just dropped huge POTENTIAL bombshell
If he has a written and recorded statement from bystander saying a gun was present with smith and then hidden, I don't see how the DA goes forward with the case
If true
If he has a written and recorded statement from bystander saying a gun was present with smith and then hidden, I don't see how the DA goes forward with the case
If true
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:08 pm to lsupride87
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Fuller said bystander witnesses have a written and recorded statement saying the Smith gun was visible at one point
Always a possibility with NOPD I suppose. What's their position on body and dash cams? Hopefully that would help shed some light on this possibility. Not that we'd see it most likely.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:09 pm to beauchristopher
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Because even Hayes didn't use this excuse.
He claimed he was trying to get his plate # and rear ended him, but even he was never emphatic about Smith just slammed his brakes.
Vast majority of instances the vehicle that is in the rear in a car accident is going to be held responsible for most or all of the fault. This guy was seeking Smith out.
Yellin reported Monday that the Hummer crashed into the Mercedes and drove it 15 feet forward and into the Impala.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:09 pm to lsupride87
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If he has a written and recorded statement from bystander saying a gun was present with smith and then hidden, I don't see how the DA goes forward with the case
If true
So what now, lie detector test? Facts are bombshells.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:09 pm to LNCHBOX
I'm not sure if he was saying the responding NOPD hid the gun, or the cop friend of smith. It sounded like he could be inferring either
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:10 pm to Pendulum
No lie detector test. But if there is an actual statement from a bystander witness, that is strong evidence
Fuller also said he had 4 other witnesses he will use at prelim hearings
Fuller clearly feels strongly about this case
Fuller also said he had 4 other witnesses he will use at prelim hearings
Fuller clearly feels strongly about this case
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:11 pm to lsupride87
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Fuller: The events leading up to shooting were captured on cell phone video and that cell was turned into NOPD.
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John Fuller: At least one witness saw a gun in Will Smith's possession.
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John Fuller: "Cardelle Hayes had been tried and convicted before I got out of church on Sunday."
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Fuller he said he has not talked to the witness captured on video saying he heard Will Smith say out loud that he had a gun
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:12 pm to lsupride87
Sounds like the witness is Hayes'passenger after the statement he gave yesterday. This isn't really anything new, it's just yesterday's statements reworded.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:13 pm to lsupride87
This is a Career defining case for him. He turned down the judge appointment for it.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:13 pm to BigBrod81
No, the witness is not Hayes passenger. Fuller specifically said it is a bystander witness and a female
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:15 pm to lsupride87
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Fuller clearly feels strongly about this case
No Doubt, he doesn't turn down judgeship unless he's extremely confident he'll have a johhny cochran moment.
To me, unless some crazy provable fact comes out that we aren't expecting; this case rests entirely on the lawyers ability to say the right things. At this point, knowing what I know, it feels like a 5050 type deal to me. I'm resolved to the fact that we will never know for sure what happened, not that it matters, both parties contributed to a pointless death and it's just sickingly tragic.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:17 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Hummer crashed into the Mercedes and drove it 15 feet forward and into the Impala.
People keep saying this like its some huge distance
Picture 5 yards on a football field
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:17 pm to lsupride87
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, I don't see how the DA goes forward with the case If true
I see you know jack about the law
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:17 pm to Pendulum
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we don't even know if the cars contacted each other on first "collision"
Smith's attorney said otherwise
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:18 pm to BigBrod81
it was just on the news live at 6
I'm sure someone will post a link shortly
I'm sure someone will post a link shortly
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:18 pm to lsupride87
Fuller: The events leading up to shooting were captured on cell phone video and that cell was turned into NOPD.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:20 pm to lsupride87
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Fuller specifically said it is a bystander witness and a female
Its a long process to fully vet a witness, take their sworn testimony and have them prepared to give sworn testimony in court, show up and give it in a court of law.
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