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Anyone questioning or hating on Sean leaving this shitshow

Posted on 2/26/25 at 6:03 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
7071 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 6:03 pm
Exhibit 1: Mickey “I do what I want” Loomis

Been a Saints fan my entire life but I honestly can’t stomach them until Loomis is gone at the very least and really until Gayle sells the team like she should have done when Tom died. She doesn’t give a shite about the product on the field and this yankee frick has carte blanche over the entire organization to keep running it into the ground yearly because he refuses to admit the team blows and needs a full rebuild. Hell Sean should have left sooner I’m sure he saw the bus going off the cliff years before he actually hauled arse and Mickey will be driving it smacking his gun happily off the cliff because he knows he has unlimited times he can frick up and still be employed. I honestly hope Carr starts every game and we go winless next year. Nothing would please me more.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 7:39 pm
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12278 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 6:04 pm to
Sean had full control of everything. He had no plan post Brees.
Posted by WheyCheddar
Member since Aug 2024
453 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 6:33 pm to
frick no. He knew it was time to go. Saints got a good trade amount for him, and he got what he wanted: away from an organization that was no longer viable for him.
And in 2 seasons he’s taken a moribund franchise with a horrendous qb deal and turned them into a relevant team. All the jealousy around here over him clearly being one of the top coaches in this league.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21658 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:08 pm to
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Sean had full control of everything. He had no plan post Brees.


Payton raved about Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield & Lamar Jackson. We all see that Loomis is stubbornly loyal to aged, washed vets. Mahomes could have been secured by trading up just a few spots but it's a good possibly that Loomis wasn't on the same page to do so especially if he wanted to "protect" Brees.

Mayfield would have cost a fortune to move up to get yet Payton is gambler. I could easily see Payton being willing to make such a move for a QB but not Loomis. Just like Mahomes, the Saints brought Mayfield in for several workouts & spent a lot of time with him at the combine. Mayfield even commented on how great it would have been to learn from Brees.

Lamar Jackson could have been taken at #18 instead of Marcus Davenport but at the time it would have been considered a reach yet not so much now. If anyone remembers there were a lot of rumors about the Saints taking Jackson & even Payton mentioned being infatuated with his skill set. Once again, Loomis would have blocked picking a QB to protect his veteran QB.

It's becoming obvious that there was some sort of conflict between Loomis & Payton when it comes to the future direction of the team. Just look at what Payton did within 2 seasons at Denver. In his first season, he completely overhauled that roster. Year 2, he drafts his future QB. After seeing that, there's no way anyone can say that Payton wasn't down for a reset with the Saints while Loomis continues to keep trying to piece together a roster while continuing to say that the organization isn't far off from competing.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
75617 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:53 pm to
Y’all have Loomis derangement syndrome

As if Payton didn’t do what he wanted, when he wanted
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
35240 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:31 pm to
What a stupid fricking post
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73293 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:31 pm to
Payton has been gone for four seasons

Loomis has not changed a thing. Tough take anyone who defends him seriously
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123599 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:35 pm to
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Y’all have Loomis derangement syndrome As if Payton didn’t do what he wanted, when he wante


Let’s compare CSP

Vs Loomis without CSP results
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77231 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:38 pm to
Sean Payton went 7-9 three consecutive seasons. An elite head coach doesn’t do that. He was somewhat overrated.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
75617 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:38 pm to
Not defending or endorsing him. But it’s bullshite that Payton retroactively gets a pass for any bad decision. He quit and Loomis didn’t so it’s all his fault now.

OP seriously said Loomis didn’t allow Payton to draft Lamar jackson. Come on.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59922 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:39 pm to
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Payton raved about Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield & Lamar Jackson.


This is revisionist history. Payton had full control in the draft.

Loomis is doing a terrible job and need to go there is no need to create false narratives to make that case
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59922 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:47 pm to
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Loomis has not changed a thing. Tough take anyone who defends him seriously


Who is defending Loomis? The idea that because Payton went to Denver and drafted a QB there fore he would have taken Mahomes or Jackson or any other QB but Loomis wouldn’t let him is just complete nonsense. It’s creating a narrative to pin blame on a guy that doesn’t need any other blame to justify getting rid of

Payton left because he or more likely his new wife wanted to move to LA. He took the Denver job because the Chargers job didn’t open last year.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21658 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:13 pm to
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As if Payton didn’t do what he wanted, when he wanted 


The Saints didn't draft a QB in rounds 1-2 as Brees career was winding down & have still yet to do so. It took Payton 2 seasons to do so in Denver. Only a fool would see the two things don't add up.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21658 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:12 pm to
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Sean Payton went 7-9 three consecutive seasons. 


Yes because of poor DC hires & poor defensive drafting. Changes were made for the better but it just sucked that those changes occurred as Brees physical abilities went down the drain. On the other hand, what in the hell has Loomis accomplished in his without Payton? His greatest accomplishment was hiring Payton & even still, Payton luckily fell into his lap. Without Payton, the Saints don't get Drew Brees. Without Payton & Brees, there is no Super Bowl victory.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21658 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:16 pm to
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The idea that because Payton went to Denver and drafted a QB there fore he would have taken Mahomes or Jackson or any other QB but Loomis wouldn’t let him is just complete nonsense.


Does Loomis show loyalty to veterans to the detriment of the roster & salary cap or not?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
171815 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:27 pm to
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Does Loomis show loyalty to veterans to the detriment of the roster & salary cap or not?
did Payton or not?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37692 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 6:46 am to
If any single [person is responsible for the crapshow we are in right now, it is Sean Payton. Mickey's biggest mistake was hiring DA seriously and then doubling down until Gayle stepped in. Every coach who has been at the helm since Mickey has been in charge has had full control of the personnel.

When asked about finding a replacement for Drew, Sean would point to Tasom Hill.

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I’m sure he saw the bus going off the cliff years before he actually hauled arse


Of course he did, he was driving it. He was just to arrogant to admit they were headed for a cliff.

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I honestly hope Carr starts every game and we go winless next year. Nothing would please me more.


So you admit you are a shitty fan who would prefer to be right as opposed to the team you claim to be a fan of winning. Got it.
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
2002 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:22 am to
FSP
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
13813 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:27 am to
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Been a Saints fan my entire life but I honestly can’t stomach them until Loomis is gone at the very least and really until Gayle sells the team like she should have done when Tom died. She doesn’t give a shite about the product on the field and this yankee frick has carte blanche over the entire organization to keep running it into the ground yearly because he refuses to admit the team blows and needs a full rebuild. Hell Sean should have left sooner I’m sure he saw the bus going off the cliff years before he actually hauled arse and Mickey will be driving it smacking his gun happily off the cliff because he knows he has unlimited times he can frick up and still be employed. I honestly hope Carr starts every game and we go winless next year. Nothing would please me more.




Posted by BengalShark
Member since Jul 2017
3688 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:27 am to
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Sean had full control of everything. He had no plan post Brees


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