re: 3rd RD Prospect TM7 Failed 10+ Drug Tests

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when an addict isn't ready to change, repercussions means nothing. I think he's changed and matured a bit, he just needs to stay on the right path in life.

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And like I said, you might be right and he might actually change. I just hope we aren't the team who takes the risk. At least not if it's like like a 3rd round pick. 6th or 7th I'd say go for it. Our 3rd round pick is very important in this draft, as I'm sure you know, so I'd rather choose someone else.

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Nope, but if I was then I wouldn't have gotten myself kicked out of school and a risky draft pick because of behavior. Don't give me this crap about not knowing what he's going through. Tons of superstar athletes his age have gone through the college football without doing the things he did.

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And tons have done the same thing. And tons of those probably will never be made public because the college didnt care if they smoked weed or not. And if you think thats impossible, think again.

Still think he's first round talent for cheap. The 10+ times failing a drug test versus 3 doesn't make much difference, to be honest.

At least he is being honest about the mistakes he's made and trying to move on. I can't fault the guy for that.

Excuses? You said he got torched in the BCS game when in reality, he gave up only 2 completions in which he had good coverage.

Admittedly the marijuana is a concern, but that's why the title says 3rd RD prospect and not 1st RD prospect

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Dude, I already know where you are going with us. The difference if I get caught speeding a few times I'm not going to potentially lose millions of dollars. And actually, no, if you must know, I typically don't speed. And yes, I've gotten a ticket before. But again, me getting a ticket isn't the same as a possible first round draft pick smoking it all away.

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You are right. The speeding ticket isnt the same as losing money. But you seem to put this hefty price tacg on him smoking pot and not stopping. Lets look at the two shall we:

Smoking pot and failing multiple tests - Got kicked out of school and loss of money due to draft stock falling. Possible injury to self or others - None.

Speeding and receiving 1 or more tickets and proceeding to speed anyway - Pay fines (loss of money) higher insurance rates (loss of money). Possible injury to self or others - Good chance

So how exactly is he so wrong?

Tyrann was pretty stupid. LSU fans make him out to be a gang banger. F machine has a really good point, I'm not as concerned as he is. If we were talking about a 1st or 2nd round pick, if say pass

But a 3rd round pick for a guy with top notch (1st round) talent. I've been watching his games at night, and god damn he is amazing.

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Why are we bringing injury to others into this? I never said smoking pot is bad. I don't give a shite if people smoke pot or not. It's not learning from your mistakes that bother me. If the school tells you not to smoke pot or you'll be kicked off the team then you don't do it. If they tell you the same about alcohol, then you don't do it. If they tell you not to dress like a clown, then you don't dress like a mother fricking clown.

I'm not going to act like college kids and college athletes don't make mistakes. I'm aware that they do, and that they often do things that they are told not to. But when you continue to do it after being caught multiple times, and after I'm sure threats of being kicked off of the team or threats to your future career, then you stop doing it

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The point is this and thank you for proving it for me over and over and over. It doesnt matter if someone tells you to stop doing something or you will lose your job or get kicked off a team. The fact is that you knew it was wrong to do in the first place, yet you do it anyway. Just like speeding, just like posting on here instead of doing your work, just like smoking weed. Its all wrong from the beginning regardless if anyone told you to stop or not do it in the first place. He made mistakes just like we all do. We all know the consequences of our actions before we do them. And as a kid we all made some stupid arse decisions thinking we were above the rules. He did, he learned, now give him a damn chance to make up for it. The saints didnt win the super bowl because we had a bunch of choir boys on the team. They won because we had exceptional athletes on the field with a hell of a coach. Tyrann is a hell of an athlete and a 3rd round pick would be more than worth it.

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FWIW I would still pick him.

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While Id love him to play for the Saints, I think itd be the worst place he could go. He needs to get as far away from NO as possible and go to a market where its nothing like NO.

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There are different levels of fricking up though. You are comparing relatively minor infractions and consequences to infractions that had major consequences for him.

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Relatively Minor infractions? So to the mother down the street that lost her little boy due to the man speeding (realtively minor infraction) down the street, I should tell her that the consequences werent major? Or to the speeder who now is in jail, I should tell him that he should be lucky that at least he didnt get kicked off the team and lose his high draft status?

See, you see what his result was and say it was major level of fricking up, but just because while you were speeding a bad incident didnt happen you want to believe that it is a relatively minor infraction with no real consequence.

The fact is that what he did is just as relatively minor as what you have done

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While Id love him to play for the Saints, I think itd be the worst place he could go. He needs to get as far away from NO as possible and go to a market where its nothing like NO.

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Is NO the only place that has weed? He can screw up anywhere. NO is where his family is and his strongest support is.