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Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:16 pm to DelU249
sounds like LSU failed NCAA policy to me
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:19 pm to BarbeTiger
He was Heisman Trophy nominee that got kicked off a football team in the SEC. I'm surprised its not double that amount!
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:27 pm to stbpike32
quote:
stbpike32
I actually want TM7, but your posts are hard to read
comparing a speeding infraction to failing 10+ drug tests is just stupid
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:28 pm to TigerBait1127
why are they hard to read?
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:30 pm to stbpike32
because going 10 mph over the speed limit is much less likely to have a meaningful consequence then repeatedly failing a drug test for a CFB player who knows he is getting drug tested
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:31 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
because going 10 mph over the speed limit is much less likely to have a meaningful consequence then repeatedly failing a drug test for a CFB player who knows he is getting drug tested
I understand the difference, but my posts are meant to show that they are both just mistakes and lapse in judgements. They dont make him any worse than you or me. Just means he made bad choices.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:34 pm to stbpike32
quote:
Is NO the only place that has weed? He can screw up anywhere. NO is where his family is and his strongest support is.
I've fluctuated on how I felt about drafting Mathieu (non-LSU fan here).
The Saints could certainly use a defensive playmaker like him, and 3rd round is a good place to take that risk. But the guy himself even said, when asked about the possibility of the Saints drafting him, that he would need a pretty strong plan in place to be successful here. That right there is enough for me to say no to him.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:35 pm to stbpike32
quote:
I understand the difference, but my posts are meant to show that they are both just mistakes and lapse in judgements. They dont make him any worse than you or me. Just means he made bad choices.
and what is that relevant to? I think everyone knows he made bad choices.
Mistakes are judged by their consequences. It would be like speeding everyday knowing a cop was doing radar in the area
quote:
The fact is that what he did is just as relatively minor as what you have done
except that it isn't. He knew what was going to happen by repeatedly smoking. A speeder is unlikely to have any consequences
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:36 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
and what is that relevant to? I think everyone knows he made bad choices.
Mistakes are judged by their consequences. It would be like speeding everyday knowing a cop was doing radar in the area
The consequences in both is a loss of money and nothing else
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:37 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
It would be like speeding everyday knowing a cop was doing radar in the area
but the cop is like your daddy's childhood best friend that's let you off the hook 11teen times already.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:38 pm to stbpike32
quote:
The consequences in both is a loss of money and nothing else
getting thrown out of college, losing a season of eligibility, public embarrassment, defamation of name, etc. aren't consequences?
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:39 pm to TigerBait1127
Wait, Matthieu smoked weed!? While attending classes!? GTFO!!!
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:40 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
aren't consequences?
not if we draft him at 15
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:47 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
getting thrown out of college, losing a season of eligibility, public embarrassment, defamation of name, etc. aren't consequences?
Oh no they are consequences.
Getting a ticket, paying a fine, missing work for traffic court, insurance going up. Are they not consequences? He is a very public figure therefore you view his consequences more drastically. In the end both cost each offender money. The speeder will be just fine after paying the fines and Tyrann will be just fine after he signs his contract.
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:54 pm to stbpike32
I would take any of these before TM7
David Amerson*, (Junior, North Carolina State)
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 205 lbs. | Hand Size: 10 1/2" | Arm Length: 32 5/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.44 | Bench 15 Reps | Vertical: 35.5" | Broad 127"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: DNP | 3 Shuttle: DNP | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
61 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 5 INT, 12 PBU
2011 Season Stats:
59 Tackles, 1.5 TFL, 13 INT, 5 PBU
Robert Alford, ( Senior, Southeastern Louisiana)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 188 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 1/2" | Arm Length: 32"
40 Yard Dash: 4.39 | Bench DNP | Vertical: 40" | Broad 132"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: 6.89 | 3 Shuttle: 4.23 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
39 Tackles, 5 INT, 4 INT, 8 PBU
2011 Season Stats:
39 Tackles, 3 INT, 4 PBU, Fumble Recovered
Blidi Wreh-Wilson, (Senior, Connecticut)
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 195 lbs. | Hand Size: 8 5/8" | Arm Length: 32"
40 Yard Dash: 4.53 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 36" | Broad 128"
10 Yard Split: 1.53 | 3 Cone: 6.97 | 3 Shuttle: 4.12 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
47 Tackles, INT, 9 PBU
2011 Season Stats:
37 Tackles, 2.0 TFL, 0.5 Sack, 2 INT, 7 PBU
Darius Slay, (Senior, Mississippi State)
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 192 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/8" | Arm Length: 32 1/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.36 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 35.5" | Broad 124"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: 6.90 | 3 Shuttle: 4.21 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
40 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 5 INT, 6 PBU, Blocked Kick
2011 Season Stats:
24 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, INT, 4 PBU, 1 QBH, Fumble Forced
Jordan Poyer, (Senior, Oregon State)
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 190 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/4" | Arm Length: 31 3/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.54 | Bench 11 Reps | Vertical: 30.5" | Broad 118"
10 Yard Split: 1.51 | 3 Cone: 6.87 | 3 Shuttle: 4.18 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
50 Tackles, 5.0 TFL, 2.0 Sacks, 7 INT, 7 PBU, Fumble Forced, Fumble Recovered
2011 Season Stats:
57 Tackles, 0.5 TFL, 4 INT, 12 PBU
Logan Ryan*, ( Junior, Rutgers)
Height: 5-11 | Weight: 191 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 5/8" | Arm Length: 31 3/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.56 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 32.5" | Broad 116"
10 Yard Split: 1.50 | 3 Cone: 6.69 | 3 Shuttle: 4.06 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
94 Tackles, 5.0 TFL, 4 INT, 17 PBU, 2 Fumbles Recovered
2011 Season Stats:
67 Tackles, 5.5 TFL, 0.5 Sack, 3 INT, 14 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 Fumbles Forced, 2 Fumbles Recovered
B.W. Webb, ( Senior, William & Mary)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 183 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/8" | Arm Length: 30 1/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.51 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 40.5" | Broad 132"
10 Yard Split: 1.49 | 3 Cone: 6.82 | 3 Shuttle: 3.84 | Projected: Round 3-4
2012 Season Stats:
46 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 8 PBU, Fumble Forced, 2 Fumbles Recovered
2011 Season Stats:
40 Tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2 INT, 3 PBU
Leon McFadden, (Senior, San Diego State)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 193 lbs. | Hand Size: 9" | Arm Length: 32 3/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.54 | Bench 10 Reps | Vertical: 34.5" | Broad 119"
10 Yard Split: 1.53 | 3 Cone: 6.81 | 3 Shuttle: 4.27 | Projected: Round 3-4
2012 Season Stats:
61 Tackles, 2.0 TFL, 3 INT, 12 PBU, Fumble Forced
2011 Season Stats:
46 Tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2 INT, 13 PBU
David Amerson*, (Junior, North Carolina State)
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 205 lbs. | Hand Size: 10 1/2" | Arm Length: 32 5/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.44 | Bench 15 Reps | Vertical: 35.5" | Broad 127"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: DNP | 3 Shuttle: DNP | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
61 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 5 INT, 12 PBU
2011 Season Stats:
59 Tackles, 1.5 TFL, 13 INT, 5 PBU
Robert Alford, ( Senior, Southeastern Louisiana)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 188 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 1/2" | Arm Length: 32"
40 Yard Dash: 4.39 | Bench DNP | Vertical: 40" | Broad 132"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: 6.89 | 3 Shuttle: 4.23 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
39 Tackles, 5 INT, 4 INT, 8 PBU
2011 Season Stats:
39 Tackles, 3 INT, 4 PBU, Fumble Recovered
Blidi Wreh-Wilson, (Senior, Connecticut)
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 195 lbs. | Hand Size: 8 5/8" | Arm Length: 32"
40 Yard Dash: 4.53 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 36" | Broad 128"
10 Yard Split: 1.53 | 3 Cone: 6.97 | 3 Shuttle: 4.12 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
47 Tackles, INT, 9 PBU
2011 Season Stats:
37 Tackles, 2.0 TFL, 0.5 Sack, 2 INT, 7 PBU
Darius Slay, (Senior, Mississippi State)
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 192 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/8" | Arm Length: 32 1/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.36 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 35.5" | Broad 124"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: 6.90 | 3 Shuttle: 4.21 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
40 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 5 INT, 6 PBU, Blocked Kick
2011 Season Stats:
24 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, INT, 4 PBU, 1 QBH, Fumble Forced
Jordan Poyer, (Senior, Oregon State)
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 190 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/4" | Arm Length: 31 3/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.54 | Bench 11 Reps | Vertical: 30.5" | Broad 118"
10 Yard Split: 1.51 | 3 Cone: 6.87 | 3 Shuttle: 4.18 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
50 Tackles, 5.0 TFL, 2.0 Sacks, 7 INT, 7 PBU, Fumble Forced, Fumble Recovered
2011 Season Stats:
57 Tackles, 0.5 TFL, 4 INT, 12 PBU
Logan Ryan*, ( Junior, Rutgers)
Height: 5-11 | Weight: 191 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 5/8" | Arm Length: 31 3/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.56 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 32.5" | Broad 116"
10 Yard Split: 1.50 | 3 Cone: 6.69 | 3 Shuttle: 4.06 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
94 Tackles, 5.0 TFL, 4 INT, 17 PBU, 2 Fumbles Recovered
2011 Season Stats:
67 Tackles, 5.5 TFL, 0.5 Sack, 3 INT, 14 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 Fumbles Forced, 2 Fumbles Recovered
B.W. Webb, ( Senior, William & Mary)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 183 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/8" | Arm Length: 30 1/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.51 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 40.5" | Broad 132"
10 Yard Split: 1.49 | 3 Cone: 6.82 | 3 Shuttle: 3.84 | Projected: Round 3-4
2012 Season Stats:
46 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 8 PBU, Fumble Forced, 2 Fumbles Recovered
2011 Season Stats:
40 Tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2 INT, 3 PBU
Leon McFadden, (Senior, San Diego State)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 193 lbs. | Hand Size: 9" | Arm Length: 32 3/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.54 | Bench 10 Reps | Vertical: 34.5" | Broad 119"
10 Yard Split: 1.53 | 3 Cone: 6.81 | 3 Shuttle: 4.27 | Projected: Round 3-4
2012 Season Stats:
61 Tackles, 2.0 TFL, 3 INT, 12 PBU, Fumble Forced
2011 Season Stats:
46 Tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2 INT, 13 PBU
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:56 pm to stbpike32
quote:
He is a very public figure therefore you view his consequences more drastically.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:57 pm to jralspanky
quote:
I would take any of these before TM7
David Amerson*, (Junior, North Carolina State)
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 205 lbs. | Hand Size: 10 1/2" | Arm Length: 32 5/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.44 | Bench 15 Reps | Vertical: 35.5" | Broad 127"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: DNP | 3 Shuttle: DNP | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
61 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 5 INT, 12 PBU
2011 Season Stats:
59 Tackles, 1.5 TFL, 13 INT, 5 PBU
Robert Alford, ( Senior, Southeastern Louisiana)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 188 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 1/2" | Arm Length: 32"
40 Yard Dash: 4.39 | Bench DNP | Vertical: 40" | Broad 132"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: 6.89 | 3 Shuttle: 4.23 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
39 Tackles, 5 INT, 4 INT, 8 PBU
2011 Season Stats:
39 Tackles, 3 INT, 4 PBU, Fumble Recovered
Blidi Wreh-Wilson, (Senior, Connecticut)
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 195 lbs. | Hand Size: 8 5/8" | Arm Length: 32"
40 Yard Dash: 4.53 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 36" | Broad 128"
10 Yard Split: 1.53 | 3 Cone: 6.97 | 3 Shuttle: 4.12 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
47 Tackles, INT, 9 PBU
2011 Season Stats:
37 Tackles, 2.0 TFL, 0.5 Sack, 2 INT, 7 PBU
Darius Slay, (Senior, Mississippi State)
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 192 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/8" | Arm Length: 32 1/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.36 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 35.5" | Broad 124"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: 6.90 | 3 Shuttle: 4.21 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
40 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 5 INT, 6 PBU, Blocked Kick
2011 Season Stats:
24 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, INT, 4 PBU, 1 QBH, Fumble Forced
Jordan Poyer, (Senior, Oregon State)
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 190 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/4" | Arm Length: 31 3/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.54 | Bench 11 Reps | Vertical: 30.5" | Broad 118"
10 Yard Split: 1.51 | 3 Cone: 6.87 | 3 Shuttle: 4.18 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
50 Tackles, 5.0 TFL, 2.0 Sacks, 7 INT, 7 PBU, Fumble Forced, Fumble Recovered
2011 Season Stats:
57 Tackles, 0.5 TFL, 4 INT, 12 PBU
Logan Ryan*, ( Junior, Rutgers)
Height: 5-11 | Weight: 191 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 5/8" | Arm Length: 31 3/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.56 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 32.5" | Broad 116"
10 Yard Split: 1.50 | 3 Cone: 6.69 | 3 Shuttle: 4.06 | Projected: Round 2-3
2012 Season Stats:
94 Tackles, 5.0 TFL, 4 INT, 17 PBU, 2 Fumbles Recovered
2011 Season Stats:
67 Tackles, 5.5 TFL, 0.5 Sack, 3 INT, 14 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 Fumbles Forced, 2 Fumbles Recovered
B.W. Webb, ( Senior, William & Mary)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 183 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/8" | Arm Length: 30 1/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.51 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 40.5" | Broad 132"
10 Yard Split: 1.49 | 3 Cone: 6.82 | 3 Shuttle: 3.84 | Projected: Round 3-4
2012 Season Stats:
46 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 8 PBU, Fumble Forced, 2 Fumbles Recovered
2011 Season Stats:
40 Tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2 INT, 3 PBU
Leon McFadden, (Senior, San Diego State)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 193 lbs. | Hand Size: 9" | Arm Length: 32 3/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.54 | Bench 10 Reps | Vertical: 34.5" | Broad 119"
10 Yard Split: 1.53 | 3 Cone: 6.81 | 3 Shuttle: 4.27 | Projected: Round 3-4
2012 Season Stats:
61 Tackles, 2.0 TFL, 3 INT, 12 PBU, Fumble Forced
2011 Season Stats:
46 Tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2 INT, 13 PBU
Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:07 pm to Chad504boy
Tyrann, today, is better than all of those dudes. In the 3rd, I have no problem with the Saints taking a chance on Tyrann. I'd rather that than the butt plugs posted.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:13 pm to SaintEB
quote:
Tyrann, today, is better than all of those dudes. In the 3rd, I have no problem with the Saints taking a chance on Tyrann. I'd rather that than the butt plugs posted.
You must be smoking some of that weed if you believe Tyrann is better than all of them.
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