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re: 3rd RD Prospect TM7 Failed 10+ Drug Tests

Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:03 pm to
NO has the worst marijuana of all the places he could go. I could see pete Carroll drafting him. Uh oh, legalized
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:16 pm to
sounds like LSU failed NCAA policy to me
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36237 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:19 pm to
He was Heisman Trophy nominee that got kicked off a football team in the SEC. I'm surprised its not double that amount!
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

stbpike32



I actually want TM7, but your posts are hard to read

comparing a speeding infraction to failing 10+ drug tests is just stupid
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 12:29 pm
Posted by stbpike32
Slidell
Member since Nov 2008
154 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:28 pm to
why are they hard to read?
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 12:29 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:30 pm to
because going 10 mph over the speed limit is much less likely to have a meaningful consequence then repeatedly failing a drug test for a CFB player who knows he is getting drug tested
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 12:30 pm
Posted by stbpike32
Slidell
Member since Nov 2008
154 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

because going 10 mph over the speed limit is much less likely to have a meaningful consequence then repeatedly failing a drug test for a CFB player who knows he is getting drug tested


I understand the difference, but my posts are meant to show that they are both just mistakes and lapse in judgements. They dont make him any worse than you or me. Just means he made bad choices.
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:34 pm to
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Is NO the only place that has weed? He can screw up anywhere. NO is where his family is and his strongest support is.

I've fluctuated on how I felt about drafting Mathieu (non-LSU fan here).

The Saints could certainly use a defensive playmaker like him, and 3rd round is a good place to take that risk. But the guy himself even said, when asked about the possibility of the Saints drafting him, that he would need a pretty strong plan in place to be successful here. That right there is enough for me to say no to him.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

I understand the difference, but my posts are meant to show that they are both just mistakes and lapse in judgements. They dont make him any worse than you or me. Just means he made bad choices.



and what is that relevant to? I think everyone knows he made bad choices.

Mistakes are judged by their consequences. It would be like speeding everyday knowing a cop was doing radar in the area

quote:

The fact is that what he did is just as relatively minor as what you have done


except that it isn't. He knew what was going to happen by repeatedly smoking. A speeder is unlikely to have any consequences
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 12:37 pm
Posted by stbpike32
Slidell
Member since Nov 2008
154 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

and what is that relevant to? I think everyone knows he made bad choices.

Mistakes are judged by their consequences. It would be like speeding everyday knowing a cop was doing radar in the area


The consequences in both is a loss of money and nothing else
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179327 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

It would be like speeding everyday knowing a cop was doing radar in the area



but the cop is like your daddy's childhood best friend that's let you off the hook 11teen times already.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:38 pm to
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The consequences in both is a loss of money and nothing else



getting thrown out of college, losing a season of eligibility, public embarrassment, defamation of name, etc. aren't consequences?
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
5659 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:39 pm to
Wait, Matthieu smoked weed!? While attending classes!? GTFO!!!
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179327 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

aren't consequences?


not if we draft him at 15
Posted by stbpike32
Slidell
Member since Nov 2008
154 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:47 pm to
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getting thrown out of college, losing a season of eligibility, public embarrassment, defamation of name, etc. aren't consequences?


Oh no they are consequences.

Getting a ticket, paying a fine, missing work for traffic court, insurance going up. Are they not consequences? He is a very public figure therefore you view his consequences more drastically. In the end both cost each offender money. The speeder will be just fine after paying the fines and Tyrann will be just fine after he signs his contract.
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 12:49 pm
Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
1493 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:54 pm to
I would take any of these before TM7

David Amerson*, (Junior, North Carolina State)
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 205 lbs. | Hand Size: 10 1/2" | Arm Length: 32 5/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.44 | Bench 15 Reps | Vertical: 35.5" | Broad 127"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: DNP | 3 Shuttle: DNP | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
61 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 5 INT, 12 PBU

2011 Season Stats:
59 Tackles, 1.5 TFL, 13 INT, 5 PBU




Robert Alford, ( Senior, Southeastern Louisiana)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 188 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 1/2" | Arm Length: 32"
40 Yard Dash: 4.39 | Bench DNP | Vertical: 40" | Broad 132"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: 6.89 | 3 Shuttle: 4.23 | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
39 Tackles, 5 INT, 4 INT, 8 PBU

2011 Season Stats:
39 Tackles, 3 INT, 4 PBU, Fumble Recovered




Blidi Wreh-Wilson, (Senior, Connecticut)
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 195 lbs. | Hand Size: 8 5/8" | Arm Length: 32"
40 Yard Dash: 4.53 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 36" | Broad 128"
10 Yard Split: 1.53 | 3 Cone: 6.97 | 3 Shuttle: 4.12 | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
47 Tackles, INT, 9 PBU

2011 Season Stats:
37 Tackles, 2.0 TFL, 0.5 Sack, 2 INT, 7 PBU




Darius Slay, (Senior, Mississippi State)
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 192 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/8" | Arm Length: 32 1/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.36 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 35.5" | Broad 124"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: 6.90 | 3 Shuttle: 4.21 | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
40 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 5 INT, 6 PBU, Blocked Kick

2011 Season Stats:
24 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, INT, 4 PBU, 1 QBH, Fumble Forced




Jordan Poyer, (Senior, Oregon State)
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 190 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/4" | Arm Length: 31 3/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.54 | Bench 11 Reps | Vertical: 30.5" | Broad 118"
10 Yard Split: 1.51 | 3 Cone: 6.87 | 3 Shuttle: 4.18 | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
50 Tackles, 5.0 TFL, 2.0 Sacks, 7 INT, 7 PBU, Fumble Forced, Fumble Recovered

2011 Season Stats:
57 Tackles, 0.5 TFL, 4 INT, 12 PBU




Logan Ryan*, ( Junior, Rutgers)
Height: 5-11 | Weight: 191 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 5/8" | Arm Length: 31 3/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.56 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 32.5" | Broad 116"
10 Yard Split: 1.50 | 3 Cone: 6.69 | 3 Shuttle: 4.06 | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
94 Tackles, 5.0 TFL, 4 INT, 17 PBU, 2 Fumbles Recovered

2011 Season Stats:
67 Tackles, 5.5 TFL, 0.5 Sack, 3 INT, 14 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 Fumbles Forced, 2 Fumbles Recovered




B.W. Webb, ( Senior, William & Mary)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 183 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/8" | Arm Length: 30 1/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.51 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 40.5" | Broad 132"
10 Yard Split: 1.49 | 3 Cone: 6.82 | 3 Shuttle: 3.84 | Projected: Round 3-4


2012 Season Stats:
46 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 8 PBU, Fumble Forced, 2 Fumbles Recovered

2011 Season Stats:
40 Tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2 INT, 3 PBU



Leon McFadden, (Senior, San Diego State)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 193 lbs. | Hand Size: 9" | Arm Length: 32 3/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.54 | Bench 10 Reps | Vertical: 34.5" | Broad 119"
10 Yard Split: 1.53 | 3 Cone: 6.81 | 3 Shuttle: 4.27 | Projected: Round 3-4

2012 Season Stats:
61 Tackles, 2.0 TFL, 3 INT, 12 PBU, Fumble Forced

2011 Season Stats:
46 Tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2 INT, 13 PBU
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

He is a very public figure therefore you view his consequences more drastically.



because they are more drastic consequences

Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179327 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

I would take any of these before TM7

David Amerson*, (Junior, North Carolina State)
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 205 lbs. | Hand Size: 10 1/2" | Arm Length: 32 5/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.44 | Bench 15 Reps | Vertical: 35.5" | Broad 127"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: DNP | 3 Shuttle: DNP | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
61 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 5 INT, 12 PBU

2011 Season Stats:
59 Tackles, 1.5 TFL, 13 INT, 5 PBU




Robert Alford, ( Senior, Southeastern Louisiana)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 188 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 1/2" | Arm Length: 32"
40 Yard Dash: 4.39 | Bench DNP | Vertical: 40" | Broad 132"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: 6.89 | 3 Shuttle: 4.23 | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
39 Tackles, 5 INT, 4 INT, 8 PBU

2011 Season Stats:
39 Tackles, 3 INT, 4 PBU, Fumble Recovered




Blidi Wreh-Wilson, (Senior, Connecticut)
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 195 lbs. | Hand Size: 8 5/8" | Arm Length: 32"
40 Yard Dash: 4.53 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 36" | Broad 128"
10 Yard Split: 1.53 | 3 Cone: 6.97 | 3 Shuttle: 4.12 | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
47 Tackles, INT, 9 PBU

2011 Season Stats:
37 Tackles, 2.0 TFL, 0.5 Sack, 2 INT, 7 PBU




Darius Slay, (Senior, Mississippi State)
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 192 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/8" | Arm Length: 32 1/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.36 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 35.5" | Broad 124"
10 Yard Split: 1.52 | 3 Cone: 6.90 | 3 Shuttle: 4.21 | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
40 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 5 INT, 6 PBU, Blocked Kick

2011 Season Stats:
24 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, INT, 4 PBU, 1 QBH, Fumble Forced




Jordan Poyer, (Senior, Oregon State)
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 190 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/4" | Arm Length: 31 3/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.54 | Bench 11 Reps | Vertical: 30.5" | Broad 118"
10 Yard Split: 1.51 | 3 Cone: 6.87 | 3 Shuttle: 4.18 | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
50 Tackles, 5.0 TFL, 2.0 Sacks, 7 INT, 7 PBU, Fumble Forced, Fumble Recovered

2011 Season Stats:
57 Tackles, 0.5 TFL, 4 INT, 12 PBU




Logan Ryan*, ( Junior, Rutgers)
Height: 5-11 | Weight: 191 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 5/8" | Arm Length: 31 3/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.56 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 32.5" | Broad 116"
10 Yard Split: 1.50 | 3 Cone: 6.69 | 3 Shuttle: 4.06 | Projected: Round 2-3


2012 Season Stats:
94 Tackles, 5.0 TFL, 4 INT, 17 PBU, 2 Fumbles Recovered

2011 Season Stats:
67 Tackles, 5.5 TFL, 0.5 Sack, 3 INT, 14 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 Fumbles Forced, 2 Fumbles Recovered




B.W. Webb, ( Senior, William & Mary)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 183 lbs. | Hand Size: 9 3/8" | Arm Length: 30 1/4"
40 Yard Dash: 4.51 | Bench 14 Reps | Vertical: 40.5" | Broad 132"
10 Yard Split: 1.49 | 3 Cone: 6.82 | 3 Shuttle: 3.84 | Projected: Round 3-4


2012 Season Stats:
46 Tackles, 1.0 TFL, 8 PBU, Fumble Forced, 2 Fumbles Recovered

2011 Season Stats:
40 Tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2 INT, 3 PBU



Leon McFadden, (Senior, San Diego State)
Height: 5-10 | Weight: 193 lbs. | Hand Size: 9" | Arm Length: 32 3/8"
40 Yard Dash: 4.54 | Bench 10 Reps | Vertical: 34.5" | Broad 119"
10 Yard Split: 1.53 | 3 Cone: 6.81 | 3 Shuttle: 4.27 | Projected: Round 3-4

2012 Season Stats:
61 Tackles, 2.0 TFL, 3 INT, 12 PBU, Fumble Forced

2011 Season Stats:
46 Tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2 INT, 13 PBU

Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23661 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:07 pm to
Tyrann, today, is better than all of those dudes. In the 3rd, I have no problem with the Saints taking a chance on Tyrann. I'd rather that than the butt plugs posted.
Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
1493 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Tyrann, today, is better than all of those dudes. In the 3rd, I have no problem with the Saints taking a chance on Tyrann. I'd rather that than the butt plugs posted.


You must be smoking some of that weed if you believe Tyrann is better than all of them.
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