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re: 3rd RD Prospect TM7 Failed 10+ Drug Tests

Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:08 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:08 am to
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I'm also not sold on this either. If he was fricking Peyton Manning coming out of college than I could see why people might want to take a risk on him. But the guy is 4 feet tall and will a lot of trouble because of it.



oh frick you done did it now.
Posted by stbpike32
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:09 am to
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If I got caught speeding 10 fricking times and my boss told me I was going to lose my job if I did it again, I assure you I wouldn't do it again


If you expect me to believe that crap then I guess you also have some swamp land in arizona to sell me. At first you would stop and then you would start speeding again and try to find ways to not get caught. We all do it so dont try and make people believe bullshite.

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No one is perfect, but continuing to do something when you know it is very detrimental to your professional career is stupid as frick.


And that is his perogative if he continues. And if that is what he wants to do, so be it. But give him a chance to be a man. Don't label him for mistakes he made while he was still a kid.
Posted by F machine
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:09 am to
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i think you're just kind of over looking the whole he was 19 years old, on top of the world, heisman candidate with a addiction problem that had very little help and wasn't mentally ready to change his ways yet.



maybe so. I'm a big LSU fan and thought he was great for us, but I also think he's an idiot. I hope he does succeed, but I don't want to be the team that uses a 3rd round pick on him.
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:10 am to
at least I'm sold on his talent, does this let me off the hook?
Posted by stbpike32
Slidell
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:11 am to
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maybe so. I'm a big LSU fan and thought he was great for us, but I also think he's an idiot. I hope he does succeed, but I don't want to be the team that uses a 3rd round pick on him.


Did you want to be the team that signed a broken shouldered QB to lead a team with a breand new coach that no one new about?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:12 am to
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at least I'm sold on his talent, does this let me off the hook?


nope, that actually makes you more dumb if you still think that way AND you're sold on his talent.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:12 am to
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If you expect me to believe that crap then I guess you also have some swamp land in arizona to sell me. At first you would stop and then you would start speeding again and try to find ways to not get caught. We all do it so dont try and make people believe bullshite.



So you wouldn't stop doing something if your boss caught you multiple times and said to stop or you'd be fired? Now I understand why you think it's all good. Believe what you want, but I assure you I'd stop.

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And that is his perogative if he continues. And if that is what he wants to do, so be it. But give him a chance to be a man. Don't label him for mistakes he made while he was still a kid.



I know you do dumb things when you are 20 years old. I did dumb things when I was 20 years old, but I didn't continue to do things that would have potentially caused me to lose millions of dollars. Over.....and over.....and over.....and over....
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:13 am to
Why would you want to buy swampland?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:13 am to
Half the NFL smokes weed and probably the majority of the NBA.

Get over it people.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:14 am to
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Did you want to be the team that signed a broken shouldered QB to lead a team with a breand new coach that no one new about?


Plenty of people knew about Sean Payton. Also, this is different. Drew possibly had a legit career ending injury. Of course I was weary of that. Anyone who wasn't is a fricking liar. He didn't cause himself to get hurt. TM7 caused these mistakes on his own.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179327 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:14 am to
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So you wouldn't stop doing something if your boss caught you multiple times and said to stop or you'd be fired? Now I understand why you think it's all good. Believe what you want, but I assure you I'd stop.


Please quit comparing adult decision making processes to a 19 year old in college. It's getting you nowhere.
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
Member since Jan 2012
6180 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:15 am to
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nope, that actually makes you more dumb if you still think that way AND you're sold on his talent.


When did it become taboo to be concerned with off the field issues?
Posted by stbpike32
Slidell
Member since Nov 2008
154 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:15 am to
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So you wouldn't stop doing something if your boss caught you multiple times and said to stop or you'd be fired? Now I understand why you think it's all good. Believe what you want, but I assure you I'd stop.


OK I'll play along with your thoughts. Cause I bet your boss loves the idea of you playing on ST instead of working. But then I guess he has never told you specifically to not do it right?

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I know you do dumb things when you are 20 years old. I did dumb things when I was 20 years old, but I didn't continue to do things that would have potentially caused me to lose millions of dollars. Over.....and over.....and over.....and over....


So you have been a 19 year old superstar college football player, Heisman Finalist, playing for a National Championship, with fame out of this world before? So you would know exactly how it feels and what he has gone through?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
179327 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:16 am to
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When did it become taboo to be concerned with off the field issues?



when you started posting. Being convinced on their talents should only make a team more likely to want to take a risk on a player, not less.
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
76656 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:16 am to
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This concerns me, if we draft him I truly hope he has changed


It shows a certain level of dedication to me.
Posted by stbpike32
Slidell
Member since Nov 2008
154 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:16 am to
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Why would you want to buy swampland?


So I could start a new Swamp People show in the high desert
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:17 am to
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Please quit comparing adult decision making processes to a 19 year old in college. It's getting you nowhere.



Well he used some stupid analogy about speeding to try to compare to this. I was just trying to make an analogy that probably fit a little better. And I understand the guy was 19. I'm sure a lot of college players do dumb shite. But like I said, it's when you continue to do it even when you know you are about to have serious repercussions that I have a problem with. 10 years old can learn from their mistakes, so the age thing doesn't do it for me.
Posted by stbpike32
Slidell
Member since Nov 2008
154 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:18 am to
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Plenty of people knew about Sean Payton. Also, this is different. Drew possibly had a legit career ending injury. Of course I was weary of that. Anyone who wasn't is a fricking liar. He didn't cause himself to get hurt. TM7 caused these mistakes on his own.


I wasnt weary of it at all. And I can swear on it. But its the same scenario. You are taking a risk and hoping for the better. But thats why Loomis and Payton make those decisions
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179327 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:18 am to
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But like I said, it's when you continue to do it even when you know you are about to have serious repercussions that I have a problem with.


when an addict isn't ready to change, repercussions means nothing. I think he's changed and matured a bit, he just needs to stay on the right path in life.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 11:20 am to
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OK I'll play along with your thoughts. Cause I bet your boss loves the idea of you playing on ST instead of working. But then I guess he has never told you specifically to not do it right?



I'm sure he doesn't love it, but he hasn't told me to stop 10+ times or I'm going to be fired. He hasn't told me anything at all. If he told me to quit or I'm fired, then I'd quit posting during work.

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So you have been a 19 year old superstar college football player, Heisman Finalist, playing for a National Championship, with fame out of this world before? So you would know exactly how it feels and what he has gone through?


Nope, but if I was then I wouldn't have gotten myself kicked out of school and a risky draft pick because of behavior. Don't give me this crap about not knowing what he's going through. Tons of superstar athletes his age have gone through the college football without doing the things he did.
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