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re: $100 million of Dead Cap….Great Job Loomis

Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
8920 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:59 pm to
I feel we should have signed edwards, but skip on Etienne and others. Just let Kamara play out his contract.

Draft Bailey, Styles, Delane, Downs, or Bain this year


Go 6-11 one more year, and draft Jeremiah Smith next year and be set up for a big five year run.
Posted by Hx15261
Member since Aug 2024
308 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:59 pm to
Go troll way out in the gulf, then pull the boat plug.
Posted by MannyG
Member since Sep 2009
390 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:24 pm to
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Is this true? God i hope so


A bit of a guess because the numbers for Travis Etienne, Kaden Elliss, & Noah Fant aren't in yet. Without them they have a little over $116 million in cap space next year
Guessing $80-90 (closer to $90) once they're entered. Even when you add additional free agents, draft picks & Olave's eventual new deal they'll be in a good spot.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15064 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:27 pm to
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but has done decent at drafting the last 6+ years.


You lost me right here…
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21733 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:57 pm to
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Don’t take my word for it, take all the GM’s that have voted Loomis 2nd worst in the league because of “kick the can” strategy as unsustainable!

Have a link for these polls?
Posted by CoeJ
Member since Oct 2010
1903 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:08 am to
Lots of projection here.

For a team in a rebuild or “retool”… having a rookie deal QB and loads of young talent in a weak division with $100m of dead cap is a BEAUTIFUL thing. Dead money is just a savings account for future spending against the cap.

Hope that helps.


This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 7:09 am
Posted by Gcaro76
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2017
163 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 8:40 am to
There were several articles over the past year or two….. “Ranking Jerry Jones, Nico Harrison and the worse GM’s in major American Sports” published by FanSided & circulated by Goose Sports in late 2025 that had him ranked 32nd in NFL and the 2nd worse GM in all Sports……The Athletic has their annual “Anonymous Executive Poll“ one GM described the Saints cap strategy as “financial malpractice” & that poll had Loomis in the bottom tier….NBC Sports / RotoPat’s Rankings had Loomis at the bottom because he continues to mortgage the future for only winning 4 - 7 games a year!
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 8:43 am
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24144 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 8:49 am to
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The Athletic has their annual “Anonymous Executive Poll“ one GM described the Saints cap strategy as “financial malpractice”

But when Howie Roseman does it, it’s praised.

stick to your “Fansided” articles for maximum cope
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 9:00 am
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
22146 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:14 am to
Man, I was dying of thirst this morning when I woke up. Thanks for the tears!
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76479 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:37 am to
22, 23 and 24's suckage are squarely on him and he would have been fired on most other teams. But like dumb said to dumber he totally redeemed himself in 25. Absolutely nailed the HC position again and may have a great scouting department going forward as a bonus. So they can fold their report and shove it sideways!
Posted by OneSaintsFan
St. George, La
Member since Jan 2009
1913 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:44 am to
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But when Howie Roseman does it, it’s praised.


Bingo. We are in a good spot.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21733 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:55 am to
Will be interesting to read
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had Loomis at the bottom because he continues to mortgage the future for only winning 4 - 7 games a year!

Only 3 losing season in the past 9 years (of course they all came in the last 4), and the only time a Loomis team had 4 or fewer games was the Katrina season.
Posted by Da #1 Stunna
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Member since Oct 2012
2077 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:27 am to
Don't let it bother you.

This sheep on this Board are a bunch of Loomis groupies that defend him to the death.

Loomis sucks at his job.

He doesn't make decisions, he does what he is told. He doesn't know talent. He signs players to contracts that leave us holding the bag with dead money. He gets fleeced in every trade we make, and was a key contributor to the last Eagles Super Bowl.

I have been watching the Saints since WAY before the Brees era, more like the Manning era. So, I have experience observing both excellence and garbage at the NFL GM position.

Loomis is a shitty GM with a brain dead owner, or he would be GONE. Suck on that Loomis fanboys.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130247 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:30 am to
We are basically out of cap hell. We have increasingly less dead cap over the next few years and will have plenty of cap space.

Next: Putting money on future years is a good thing with the cap expansion. 1 million next year means less than 1 million this year does.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21733 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:33 am to
Couldn't find all of the articles referenced, but did find these (only 1 support Gcaro76 citations)
Fansided
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Jones might be the king of baffling moves, but Saints general manager Mickey Loomis comes away as the winner of the worst GM title because of the way the Saints have stagnated under him.
Loomis took over the Saints in 2002 and had some early success, but it's become increasingly clear over the past four seasons that Drew Brees and Sean Payton were propping Loomis up.
Brees retired after the 2020 season. Now, heading into the fifth year of the post-Brees era, the Saints just named Spencer Rattler as the starting quarterback over Tyler Shough.
Five years to find a viable successor to Brees, and that's what the Saints have come up with? Loomis just feels too committed to being a team that comes close to a meaningless playoff spot at the expense of the team's future. And maybe that would make sense if the Saints were sneaking into the playoffs and had a chance at some upset wins there, but they've missed the playoffs in all four post-Brees seasons! 9-8 hasn't cut it, and now the team is left in a terrible situation.

Searching for the athletic article, brought me to Saintswire, but doesn't provide the actual ranking. Snip of what they had to say:
quote:

“It is easy to say from afar, but of all the teams, New Orleans, you can go get Arch Manning!” one team executive told Sando. “Tear the thing down! You are not really competitive, you have no answer at QB, you are bloated, you have cap issues and in a year, the prodigal son could return home. What am I missing?”

NBC Sports
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21. Mickey Loomis, Saints
Mickey Loomis is headed into season four without Sean Payton. We are still waiting on his first post-Payton innovation. Everyone knows Loomis’ one weird trick. Pretend the salary cap doesn’t exist and renegotiate every contract like you are trying to create the next “Bobby Bonilla Day.” That’s how you get a $35.6 million cap surcharge for the second year of Derek Carr’s “retirement” in 2026. It’s also how you remain stuck in the 7-9 win shadow zone. Until you don’t. Loomis’ crew collapsed to five victories last season, the franchise’s fewest since 2005, the year before Payton arrived. Loomis finally moved outside the Payton coaching tree when he replaced a fossilized Dennis Allen with Kellen Moore, but then he placed a franchise quarterback bet on a second-rounder who is about to turn 26 and moves like … a dinosaur. Loomis has an unwavering belief he can always remain one step ahead of the law, or aging curve. In an era where teams all across the big four sports cynically resort to tanking as a roster-building shortcut, Loomis never stops trying to win. It’s admirable until you suffer through 3-4 Saints games in a row. Then, the conclusion becomes crystal clear: “You know what, Sam Hinkie probably had a point.” Maybe the Moore/Shough plan somehow pays off. More than likely, it will only further delay the most overdue rebuild in the history of sports.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21733 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:37 am to
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Loomis sucks at his job.

He doesn't make decisions, he does what he is told

If he's not the one making the decisions, and only does what he's told; then this would not fall on him. It would be on whoever is the decision maker
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I have been watching the Saints since WAY before the Brees era, more like the Manning era. So, I have experience observing both excellence and garbage at the NFL GM position.

Given the Saints history, and the argument that Loomis is a shitty GM; who is the Saints GM that showed you excellence?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76479 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:39 am to
Finks was good but in the old school nfl way.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21733 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:50 am to
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Finks was good but in the old school nfl way.

Finks and Mueller had their positives, but my question was more about the description of any Saints GM as "excellence"
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15064 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:00 am to
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It’s weird, it’s almost like we lost a Hall of Fame QB during that time and there was an adjustment period. Loomis should have just gotten another HOF QB on a cheap contact to take over.


The main issue is, after Brees hung it up, Doomis went all in on trying to win with Winston and Dennis Allen. He still kept buying win now free agents and kicking the can down the road. We are actually paying the price for this era with the dead cap and not so much the Brees era.

I knew the day Allen was hired we weren’t going anywhere. I’d say most on this board wanted a tear down of the roster and to start the rebuild then. But Loomis did the opposite. That’s why we at 90 + million on dead cap.

And let’s face it, outside of this past year, the drafts the last 4-5 years have sucked balls.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 11:03 am
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178950 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:06 am to
Saints were completely littered with injuries during dennis' run. Problem was Dennis wasn't commander enough to be a good enough coach to win under bad circumstances. Very few are.
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