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re: Zion will be Amazing Next Season
Posted on 1/28/25 at 4:16 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Posted on 1/28/25 at 4:16 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:
He's minus-16 over the last 5 games
Heavily skewed numbers from 2 games. The other 3 games he had a positive +/-.
Last night he was literally the only player doing anything worth a damn. He was 13/18 shooting, for 72%, the rest of the team was 26/71 for 36%.
Charlotte game was the same way, as a team we shot 38%, take Zion’s 55% shooting out and that drops to 33%.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 4:19 pm
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Posted on 1/28/25 at 4:19 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:
He's minus-16 over the last 5 games.
His stats the last 5 games averaging 25 minutes
31/7/2
28/11/2
24/14/6
21/7/9
16/7/3
Avg: 24 pts/ 9 reb/ 4.5 ast/ 1 stl /1.5 blk
Yeah just absolutely terrible....
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 1/28/25 at 4:25 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:
He's minus-16 over the last 5 games.
Simple yes or no questions. Forget availability, personality, etc.
When they are on the court playing, do you believe Ingram is a better basketball player than Zion?
Yes or no.
Do you think Ingram has more value in the league than Zion?
Yes or no.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:03 pm to kellyboy23
Yeah, Willie Green is going to be a great mentor for him as well.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:05 pm to ghost2most
quote:
When they are on the court playing, do you believe Ingram is a better basketball player than Zion?
No but one is able to fit into multiple systems, one requires a dedicated system to him.
quote:
Do you think Ingram has more value in the league than Zion?
Not on a 3rd contract, no but head to head they're not too far off imho.
quote:
availability
It's for this reason, one is a mental aspect of his game. I think if you're contending he will power through pain, similar to Toni. The other one refuses to be this version of himself year round.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:39 pm to kellyboy23
Yes, He and that top draftee will develop great chemistry together. Then Zion will do what his record shows he will do.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:39 pm to Soggymoss
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Last night he was literally the only player doing anything worth a damn. He was 13/18 shooting, for 72%, the rest of the team was 26/71 for 36%.
Because he fricks up continuity and flow. He doesn't consistently make anyone around him better. He was the best in ISO last night, and the entire time has resorted to ISO ball.
Oh, but I thought the ISO ball issue was an Ingram issue. How can it possibly crop up when Ingram is out?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:42 pm to ghost2most
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When they are on the court playing, do you believe Ingram is a better basketball player than Zion?
Yes, but I think Zion is more talented. Zion could be better, but chooses not to be.
I have a yes or no question for you now.
Do you think Zion has the mental toughness to lead a team?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:56 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Do you think Zion has the mental toughness to lead a team?
If this isn't rhetorical, or a joke, then the answer is "abso-fricking-loutly not."
He doesn't have the mental toughness to take care of himself, to lead his career. The question is to lead a TEAM?? LOL. If any one here on PelsTalk is still harboring feelings or thoughts that this guy just needs a few more years to grow into it after 6 years, probably have some mental issues they themselves need to get looked at professionally.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:28 pm to Honest Man
quote:
Next year Zion and Johnny Davis will be lit
This aged well. Is Johnny Davis even still in the league?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:43 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Do you think Zion has the mental toughness to lead a team?
No.
However I don’t think Ingram does either.
And since those are our two options, I choose the one with the most potential.
Ingram is just another borderline all star at best.
Zion could potentially be an mvp level talent.
Will he get there? Probably not. Will Ingram? Zero chance
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:15 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Zion has not affected winning since coming back.
Why have we been so much better in January than in November and December?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:28 pm to kellyboy23
Next year will be the 7th straight season that we’ve been told to wait til next year.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 5:24 pm to ghost2most
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Zion could potentially be an mvp level talent.
That ship sailed and sunk.
BI is at least a competitor. The difference in level of respect from teammates is all I need to know. They all love BI and do little more than put up with Zion's bullshite because they have to.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 5:46 pm to chalmetteowl
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Why have we been so much better in January than in November and December?
1. We played the weakest teams in the league.
2. The other 5 guys who also got healthy
Why did we win a game Zion didn't play in, then lost the next game when he did? We've won more games in January without Zion than with him.
Why do we have twice as many wins without Zion in January as we do with Zion?
We have only beaten the Bulls and Jazz with Zion. We beat the Jazz three nights later without Zion. We beat the Bulls to start the season with BI but no Zion or Murphy
We are 5-4 without Zion in January
We are 2-4 with Zion in January
Now you show your work.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 5:49 pm
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