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re: Zion thoughts?
Posted on 10/12/19 at 6:18 am to GynoSandberg
Posted on 10/12/19 at 6:18 am to GynoSandberg
I just found it odd that you remembered reasonable takes from 5 months ago that turned out to be incredibly wrong and ignored all the great things I said about him.
I edited out me going about defending myself because Its just not worth it. It came across as defensive and frankly, sad. I’m more honored that you’re so obsessed with me that you remembered mildly shitty posts from 5 months ago. I’ve got way shittier posts than that but for you to remember is really sweet.
Damn I must be more of a genius than I thought.
I edited out me going about defending myself because Its just not worth it. It came across as defensive and frankly, sad. I’m more honored that you’re so obsessed with me that you remembered mildly shitty posts from 5 months ago. I’ve got way shittier posts than that but for you to remember is really sweet.
Damn I must be more of a genius than I thought.
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 6:23 am to LouisianaJoseph
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But bunchie is usually spot on.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 6:27 am to dj30
You of all people should definitely not throw stones in glass houses.
Have a great morning.
Have a great morning.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 6:46 am to Fun Bunch
The fact that Zion decided he didn’t give a shite that Rudy Gobert was guarding him in the post, and still scored with ease on him several times, then did the same to Ed Davis, should scare everyone not a pelican.
His defense hasn’t been good at all, but I think he’s out there hunting for steals to make a highlight more than anything. He’ll learn. I’m not worried about that. Found it interesting they put him at the 5 for a few plays against Gobert.
His defense hasn’t been good at all, but I think he’s out there hunting for steals to make a highlight more than anything. He’ll learn. I’m not worried about that. Found it interesting they put him at the 5 for a few plays against Gobert.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 6:50 am to TeddyPadillac
It takes most rookies awhile to get good on Defense. Everyone thought AD would be spectacular on D and struggle on O and it was pretty much the opposite. Honestly, I still don’t think AD is that good defensively outside of blocks.
Zion’s soft touch around the rim is fairly incredible. To be fair, it’s preseason, and he may hit a wall and struggle at some point this year. But man, it is truly something to watch.
Zion’s soft touch around the rim is fairly incredible. To be fair, it’s preseason, and he may hit a wall and struggle at some point this year. But man, it is truly something to watch.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 7:17 am to Fun Bunch
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Honestly, I still don’t think AD is that good defensively outside of blocks.
This is by far the hottest take you have in this thread.
Zion is lost on d, like rookies will be. Honestly, most of the team is as well. It will take time for the team to figure it out w/ new scheme + new pieces.
And remember, still a lot of young guys seeing minutes. Even the Laker guys are still young and not coming from a stable environment that develops good habits. Potential is there for this team on defense, but it will take some time, I think
Posted on 10/12/19 at 7:19 am to TeddyPadillac
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His defense hasn’t been good at all, but I think he’s out there hunting for steals to make a highlight more than anything. He’ll learn. I’m not worried about that. Found it interesting they put him at the 5 for a few plays against Gobert.
Yeah, his defense has been really bad, but it's a lack of knowledge, not a lack of ability. He has to be in the right place at the right time. He'll learn.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 7:23 am to corndeaux
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This is by far the hottest take you have in this thread.
It’s worded poorly. I meant relative to his defensive hype coming out of college.
He’s a good help defender but I’ve always felt he wasn’t that good of a man on man defender relative to his reputation . He’s pretty soft. Gets spectacular blocks but he really lacks effort and he’s very soft sometimes. He gets beat a lot.
He’s no Gobert, or even Draymond,for instance.
AD is an absolutely spectacular offensive player though and most didn’t expect that. I’m not trying to be the fan that just downplays him once he’s gone. He’s a great player. But I’ve always felt that way about him defensively.
This post was edited on 10/12/19 at 7:24 am
Posted on 10/12/19 at 7:26 am to corndeaux
And yeah Zion isn’t the only one playing poorly on D. He’s a rookie though so being lost is expected. He will get it eventually. His basketball IQ is just too high.
There are too many good defenders for them to be bad on D all year.
There are too many good defenders for them to be bad on D all year.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 7:29 am to Fun Bunch
I think you're letting his poor effort last season hold too much sway. And he should absolutely be punished for basically wasting a season of his prime on nonsense.
Same time, his work in 17/18 was spectacular. DPOY level. When he's trying, he's just devastating. Much of the talk here that year was that he was too good offensively and that cost him focus/effort on defense.
I agree that he's no Draymond. Draymond is a defensive savant. But Draymond also has had the habit of taking the last few regular seasons off
Same time, his work in 17/18 was spectacular. DPOY level. When he's trying, he's just devastating. Much of the talk here that year was that he was too good offensively and that cost him focus/effort on defense.
I agree that he's no Draymond. Draymond is a defensive savant. But Draymond also has had the habit of taking the last few regular seasons off
Posted on 10/12/19 at 7:33 am to corndeaux
Fair assessment.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 7:47 am to Fun Bunch
Good morning bunchy...
I speak facts, some people just dont like who they come from.
I speak facts, some people just dont like who they come from.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 7:48 am to Fun Bunch
Definitely agree on Zion getting it sooner rather than later. His motor is never in doubt and he's got a high BBIQ.
We just need to let them breathe some. There will be ups and downs this year.
We just need to let them breathe some. There will be ups and downs this year.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 7:51 am to corndeaux
The roster turnover alone ensures that it’ll take time. Team Defense, a large part of its success is due to familiarity and instinct as to what the other players will do
We have a lot of good individual defenders and high IQ players. It’ll come together, it’s just going to take some time.
And the pace we play at won’t help a lot on that end.
We have a lot of good individual defenders and high IQ players. It’ll come together, it’s just going to take some time.
And the pace we play at won’t help a lot on that end.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 9:05 am to Fun Bunch
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You and Lester are strange guys.
you have no self awareness or accountability bunchie. You should check yourself. Less emotion and reactiveness would be a start.. More reflection. You're not a stupid person, but you just cant help yourself
Posted on 10/12/19 at 9:26 am to Lester Earl
I like being emotional on here during games. I’m a relatively emotionless person. It’s a good release.
You do you, I’ll do me.
Self reflection is also a two way street. Have a great day Lester. Enjoy the cool temperatures.
You do you, I’ll do me.
Self reflection is also a two way street. Have a great day Lester. Enjoy the cool temperatures.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 10:06 am to Lester Earl
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you have no self awareness or accountability bunchie. You should check yourself. Less emotion and reactiveness would be a start.. More reflection. You're not a stupid person, but you just cant help yourself
How does he lack accountability? He acknowledged that the takes mentioned were bad takes. I've had some dumb takes here too. I'm not trying to takes sides in a fight, because I really dislike stupid threads of people calling each other stuff, and I don't want this to resemble the Rant or the Poli board.
Posted on 10/12/19 at 10:28 am to BayouRat15
Bayourat15 gets an F-
Posted on 10/12/19 at 5:31 pm to THRILLHO
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He's barely old enough to buy a pack of American Spirit Yellows and he's killing it against proper NBA players.
A++++ WOULD DRAFT AGAIN.
All of this. He’s a stud and gonna be a star in short order. 3-5 years from now? Holy hell, who knows but watch out!!
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:40 pm to BayouRat15
Thoughts? He’s very talented, and he’s agile
and quick for his size. His defense will be fine. He positions himself well.
and quick for his size. His defense will be fine. He positions himself well.
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