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re: Zion talking to media…
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:08 pm to shel311
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:08 pm to shel311
If he doesn’t talk people- media gets on him- see last year. Your reasoning makes no sense- makes him seem he cant recover from a hamstring after 5 months- which training staff doesn’t agree with. Also makes him seem injury riddled. His best scenario especially with endorsements and not with fans like you is to say hes healed but he’s mentally not healed. Mental health in todays society is a lot more protected and not looked down upon like in the past. This statement was not to appease people like you but companies endorsing him.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:11 pm to shel311
Your whole theory makes him seem like something is wrong with him. Makes him seem more injury riddled. His statement and Griffs states hes healed but not ready mentally. Hes trying to avoid people thinking hes still injured- thats the whole point!!!!
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:12 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:Agreed, and that is still not nearly as bad as what be said today.
If he doesn’t talk people- media gets on him- see last year
quote:It does but ok.
Your reasoning makes no sense
quote:My reasoning that Zion Williamson is injury riddled makes no sense. Well, that's a take.
Also makes him seem injury riddled
quote:
His best scenario especially with endorsements and not with fans like you is to say hes healed but he’s mentally not healed.
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:12 pm to shel311
Lol no one knows what the facts are including you. This is all theory. Unless you work with the Pels stop acting like you do.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:13 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:So is this your way of conceding you were wrong about thinking he has to be 100% to be medically cleared?
Your whole theory makes him seem like something is wrong with him. Makes him seem more injury riddled. His statement and Griffs states hes healed but not ready mentally. Hes trying to avoid people thinking hes still injured- thats the whole point!!!!
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:14 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:I could say the same about you, so still not making logical points here even when you veer off topic.
Lol no one knows what the facts are including you. This is all theory. Unless you work with the Pels stop acting like you do
You're doing the literal same thing I'm doing, just in another direction. A very illogical direction but I digress.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:15 pm to shel311
I never stated that. You assumed that from what was being said. But go ahead if that helps your ego and makes you feel like you have a bigger dick hahaha
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:22 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
when you look at the decade before Griff came here
I don't care about the past.
3 year ago we sat in the offseason with all of this.
BI coming off making an all star team.
Zion finishing his rookie year playing the last 24 games of it averaging 22/6 on 58% shooting.
a promising 7' gazelle of a rookie in Jaxson
Lonzo learned how to shoot.
then we fired the shitty proven loser in Gentry and ready to hire a new coach to lead this hot young team full of potential.
Everyone had us pegged as the most exciting and most potential in the league.
then Jrue politely asked to be traded, which we obliged. We get it, we are rebuilding and he's getting older and wants to play for a contender. He was a professional about it.
So we get this great trade for him.
Steven Adams and Eric Bledsoe, who we eventually had to give up 7 spots in one draft and trade another 1st to get rid of.
instead of keeping the 24th pick from the Bucks that year as part of that trade, we sent it to OKC to take George Hill.
and then we were given the Bucks 25 and 27 firsts
at this point, we still have this supposed war chest
all of our own future firsts
22 1st, and 24/25 Lakers 1st
25 and 27 Bucks first
And what has Griff done since then?
Hired a fat dumbass that no one thought would be a good coach for this team
Jaxson Hayes sucks
Nickeil was worthless
Kira Lewis is worthless
traded away a 1st to sign a RFA in Devonte, who we eventually dumped for an expiring but had to give up 4 2nd round picks to do so.
Gave up Lonzo for nothing, which ended up being blind luck there.
Had to move down from 10th to 17th in one draft, and give up the Lakers 22 1st to get rid of Bledsoe and Adams, just so we could get another lumbering 5 that wasn't a good defender. B/c of a lucky rabbit foot, the Lakers sucked and we got to keep that top 10 protected 22 1st, which is Dyson, and Trey Murphey is good.
We used our remaining war chest on CJ, which i'm not upset at. He's a great 3rd guy to have. he just has been forced to be the 2nd guy on this team 90% of the time.
We still have a war chest, all our future 1sts, the Lakers 24/25 first, and the Bucks 27 firsts, but we've wasted so much of what we had the last 3 years, and there's nothing promising about how Griff has used our war chest the last 3 years that makes me want him in control of it going forward.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:25 pm to England_Pelican
This is all about the loser sycophants he has surrounded himself with. Cut the cord Big Z Man
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:39 pm to 50_Tiger
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The crazy thing is both of our top talents said legit the same thing in the same year. This is something conditioned in the locker room.
Idk if it’s Willie. But it’s absolutely the training staff and Griff. If they’ve turned both BI and Zion into mental midgets, then, even as good as BI is, he must be traded for someone else, an Alpha, someone that Zion will see as someone worth following and worth playing through some injury for. Zion saw BI take his time, and is following suit. Larry and CJ are playing through injuries and they don’t give a flying frick which lets us know they have less of an impact on the leadership of this team than we thought.
Maybe we won’t have to trade BI but CJ is likely going to get a look on the block next year for someone who will call Z and BI out. Dame would NOT put up with that shite. Not saying we would ever trade CJ for Dame. It doesn’t make sense. But that’s the kind of player we need.
ETA: if you can trade BI for Dame, I would do it. Zion needs THAT kind of leadership. Not whatever BI, CJ and co. are bringing. Until he feels the pressure to perform, he’s going to continue to be babied
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:50 pm to Pels_Yaz
I, in the most sincere way possible saying this, don’t give two fricks about Zion’s mental health. Sorry when you’re paid like he is and is basically stealing from the Pelicans by sitting on the bench 75% of your entire career, you lose benefit of the doubt. To come out and have the audacity to say you feel fine physically but won’t play until you’re Zion like that is supposed to mean something other than overweight and injury plagued is just a slap in the face. We all know it’s really because he let himself go while he was hurt instead of staying as close to game shape as possible is the real reason he can’t play. He can’t pass the reentry physical that the training staff inevitably is giving him. This is just absolutely pathetic at this point. He’s been out 3 months on a 4-6 week injury and if he can’t get himself in mental shape to play in the playoffs then it just proves he has no drive to him. The real dogs would be out there on one leg but Zion needs to feel like a superhero apparently to be bothered with it.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:54 pm to England_Pelican
Does he “feel like Zion” when he cashes those checks?
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:57 pm to JS87
I’m not posting again until I feel like Mulkey Man
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:11 pm to Macintosh504
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Says it’s all mental and he’s physically okay.
Different sport, but it sounds like he’s afraid to be the next Marcus Dupree.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:29 pm to c on z
He's mentally weak but doesn't have a problem taking all the money from the Pels.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:32 pm to Mulkey Man
quote:
I’m not posting again until I feel like Mulkey Man
Everyone call your employer tomorrow morning and tell them you are physically able to come to work, but you just don't feel like yourself. Tell them you will come back to work when you feel like yourself again. Let's see how that works out for ya.
Z is either totally immature or he's lying about his physical condition. Either way, he just embarrassed himself and the whole franchise today.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:38 pm to CelticDog
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he cant because he's never fit enough to practice jump shot or jump hook. no jumping. it's important to remember he has no game. now we know he's healed. good. he will pass a physical. now deal him for a starter and a 14% chance at scoot, miller, wemby or the better twin.
Gordon Hayward among other examples was shooting from a chair when he had a far more severe injury than Zion. So I don’t subscribe to that.
I think playing the Giannis/LeBron Point forward style is a mistake.
What made him a “generational prospect” is his athleticism(particularly strength and second jump), finishing at the rim, his motor(save the joke), and his ability to pass.
That can be utilized in a more traditional power forward role. More Karl Malone(who could shoot the lights out), more Phoenix era Barkley, more prime Larry Johnson
If fatigue leads to injury, as evidence suggest it does, and Zion initiating the offense is going to gas him out, then playing off ball is how he can be Zion without the extra mileage.
Of course, organizationally, there has to be others who handle these responsibilities of shot creation.
Treys development could Critical to the entire plan.
And of course, if Zion could learn to shoot.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 7:00 pm to England_Pelican
This is why they need to do away with guaranteed contracts. He'd be in uniform if it meant getting paid.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 7:00 pm to Mulkey Man
quote:
I’m not posting again until I feel like Mulkey Man
That meme needs to go viral.
I’m not changing diapers again until I feel like Jojodaddy
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