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Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:22 pm to SenGooner
Fat Slob Bust
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:33 pm to Chad504boy
You sure walk company lines these days lol
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:43 pm to goatmilker
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You sure walk company lines these days lol
i just see a lot of talking out of arse these days.
zion has trended in a better direction.
zion sucks and doesnt help us win
but then think we going to get any value for him
if we had let him walk for nothing then pelicans aren't replacing him in fa with any sort of better talent, nobody wants to play here.
nomatter what is done, people are going to just bitch and moan.
queen is a developing prospect that is still getting minutes and hope to improve.
zion is the most efficient scorer in the league with the potential to put up 30+ppg
nobody was more critical of zion the earlier years than me. he is a huge reason why we have been in perpetual suckiness but he is trending in the better direction and just trying to make the best of our situation right now.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:04 pm to Chad504boy
quote:What?
zion has trended in a better direction.
He's played in 6 seasons. This is his 2nd worst season he's played in.
He's MUCH worse right now than he was in year 2 at 20 years old. It's not even close.
He's regressed...a lot.
quote:Zion played 62 games. We were outscored when he was on court.
zion sucks and doesnt help us win
We were 22-40 in games Zion played.
quote:It was reported we tried to secretly shop him during last season but he had no value.
but then think we going to get any value for him
quote:If a max player doesn't help you win and has no trade value, then cutting him when you have the chance to do so with non guaranteed salary, then it is necessary to do.
if we had let him walk for nothing then pelicans aren't replacing him in fa with any sort of better talent, nobody wants to play here.
Additionally, for 2026-2027, we are currently at $196mil. IF we dropped Zion's $45 mil, we are at $151 mil. The cap that season is projected at $165 million and luxury tax $201 million. The idea that Zion's $45mil being gone doesn't help us get under a cap and tax is just factually incorrect.
Now do the same excercise for 2027-2028, and you're talking about being $70 mil under the cap and have over $100 mil before hitting the tax.
quote:Ok, but he's factually not.
zion is the most efficient scorer in the league
quote:He does not have that potential.
with the potential to put up 30+ppg
Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:08 pm to shel311
“other than all that, he’s a centerpiece!” 
Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:27 pm to shel311
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He does not have that potential.
i was meaning that statement by on an any night basis. not whole season. I do think he can be in that 24-26 ppg range pretty easily.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 4:11 pm to Stamps74
He’s not a centerpiece on a championship team. However, if he is really working on his jumper like his workout videos suggest then he could be a good 2. Imo the only chance this version of the pelicans has at being a contender is Fears developing into a true superstar.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 5:43 pm to shel311
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were 22-40 in games Zion played.
So we were 4-16 in the games he missed. Simple math shows we were almost twice as likely to win when he played. That seems significant
Posted on 5/21/26 at 6:28 pm to brmark70816
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were 22-40 in games Zion played.
So we were 4-16 in the games he missed. Simple math shows we were almost twice as likely to win when he played. That seems significant
I think using win loss record from last year is very misleading, because we were the only terrible team in the league TRYING TO WIN after the All-Star break.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 6:32 pm to shel311
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zion has trended in a better direction.
What? He's played in 6 seasons. This is his 2nd worst season he's played in.
He's MUCH worse right now than he was in year 2 at 20 years old. It's not even close.
If you watched the games, the only thing about Zion that was better this year was his availability. His play on the court was the worst it’s been in his career. Not to say he was terrible; but the quality of his play unquestionably dropped this year.
** Obviously replying much more to Gayle’s lap dog Chad than you.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 5/21/26 at 9:11 pm to LSUgrad88
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think using win loss record from last year is very misleading, because we were the only terrible team in the league TRYING TO WIN after the All-Star break.
I agree. It was just a weird flex. We were obviously much better when he played.
Zion actually had a decent year though. He should have played more, but it was a good step forward. He's not the reason we sucked so bad. I'm not even sure he's in the top 5 of that list..
Posted on 5/21/26 at 9:19 pm to Stamps74
The greatest trick Zion ever pulled was ducking the playoffs and avoiding being exposed as a limited offensive player with terrible defensive instincts and effort.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:44 pm to brmark70816
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Zion actually had a decent year though. He should have played more, but it was a good step forward. He's not the reason we sucked so bad. I'm not even sure he's in the top 5 of that list..
Say it louder for the bitches in the back
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 5/22/26 at 5:15 am to brmark70816
Don't get it twisted. Zion Williamson was the number 1 reason this team won less than 30 games in year 7 of his career. He wasn't a rookie. He wasn't a 2nd year player. This is a dude supposed to be reaching the height of his powers, not slowly diminishing into a 6th man type specialty scorer.
He missed 20 games. He is a power forward that doesn't rebound. He refuses to rebound. He's a below average defender. He's a mediocre offensive player in today's era. He's a below average offensive player in 4th quarters when the game is close.
When you are supposed to be the best prospect since LeBron, not being a top 100 player in the league, while making $40M plus a year is a death sentence to your organization.
Prime Zion Williamson is not 1/10th of the player of 41 year old LeBron James. That's a serious problem and we will never achieve anything until he is gone. He's not going to get better as he ages either. He's already proven that he gets worse as he ages, bc he refuses to add skill or nuance to his game.
We've seen the best of Zion Williamson and it led absolutely nowhere bc he was unprofessional off the basketball court and he could not stay healthy or rehab properly enough to salvage seasons when we had BI, CJ, Jonas, Naji, Dyson, Trey, Herb and Jose to support him against a much weaker West (OKC, Spurs and Houston were not good yet).
He missed 20 games. He is a power forward that doesn't rebound. He refuses to rebound. He's a below average defender. He's a mediocre offensive player in today's era. He's a below average offensive player in 4th quarters when the game is close.
When you are supposed to be the best prospect since LeBron, not being a top 100 player in the league, while making $40M plus a year is a death sentence to your organization.
Prime Zion Williamson is not 1/10th of the player of 41 year old LeBron James. That's a serious problem and we will never achieve anything until he is gone. He's not going to get better as he ages either. He's already proven that he gets worse as he ages, bc he refuses to add skill or nuance to his game.
We've seen the best of Zion Williamson and it led absolutely nowhere bc he was unprofessional off the basketball court and he could not stay healthy or rehab properly enough to salvage seasons when we had BI, CJ, Jonas, Naji, Dyson, Trey, Herb and Jose to support him against a much weaker West (OKC, Spurs and Houston were not good yet).
Posted on 5/22/26 at 6:08 am to SenGooner
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Don't get it twisted. Zion Williamson was the number 1 reason this team won less than 30 games in year 7 of his career.
I just don't agree. If I had to rank our failures.
1. Horrible leadership. We fired a coach that lost the locker room, tons of dysfunction from the top/down. Had to be cleaned and purged.
2. Poole was a ghost and was straight up horrible when we he did play. We had to have his shooting and consistent playmaker. He was a negative. Biggest disappointment on the team.
3. Murray missing basically the whole year. I though we'd get at least half a season from him, with him being really effective the last 20 or so games of the year. That didn't come close to happening.
4. Playing two rookies extended minutes and starting them for most of the year. Especially two project players. That's a lot growth, but it cost the team. Hopefully it pays off in the future.
5. Both Murphy and Jones missing extended time. If we had either one at certain stretches we pull in many more wins. Specifically Murphy out during the home stretch of the year. We would have easily hit 30 wins otherwise.
quote:
He is a power forward that doesn't rebound
Zion is not a PF. Zion is a powerful wing. We only play one big most of the time. Hes the strongest player in the league, but he's also one of the quickest and fastest.
Its odd that Zion gets hit with this type of backlash, but Murphy is alright? He's 6'10 with great athleticism and leaping ability. So why isn't he a better rebounder? Why cant he put on some muscle and bang some?
quote:
We've seen the best of Zion Williamson and it led absolutely nowhere bc he was unprofessional off the basketball court and he could not stay healthy or rehab properly enough to salvage seasons when we had BI, CJ, Jonas, Naji, Dyson, Trey, Herb and Jose to support him against a much weaker West (OKC, Spurs and Houston were not good yet).
I don't dwell in the past. I look towards the future. Zion is still the most talented player on the team. If we trade him, we're in full rebuild. I just dont see the team doing that. So we need to optimize what we have. If that upsets or disappoints you, then you're just not going to have much fun as a Pelicans fan this offseason..
Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:22 am to Chad504boy
quote:
zion is the most efficient scorer in the league with the potential to put up 30+ppg
No he isn't.
You know who else is an efficient scorer?
Jalen Duren
20ppg and higher ORtg, eFG%, and TS% than Zion. Doesn't shoot 3's so eFG% is really just 2P%.
What did he do in 14 games in the playoffs this year?
ppg cut in half, 2P% went from 65% in regular season to 51% in playoffs.
How has Zion's efficiency held up in playoff games?
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