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re: Zion on Gil’s Arena

Posted on 7/11/23 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25887 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 5:19 pm to
Shel, sorry for your loss man.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Or that some like to bitch about everything and will twist things to meet their agenda
That same poster was making fun of people who have hopes for Liddell who has never played a game and compared it to peoples who have hopes for Kira.

Any way to be negative, that's the route that poster will take, with no self awareness that he's doing the same thing that he won't stop complaining about, just on the other side of the argument. He thinks it's crazy to have hope for Kira while also thinking it's crazy to not give up on a guy who has never played a game yet.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

He thinks it's crazy to have hope for Kira


At this point, anyone who still thinks Kira is going to be something is just delusional

Liddell could maybe turn into an end of the bench player at some point but people are having Trey/herb visions of him and that’s just lol
Posted by kpop1
Member since Jan 2018
1669 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 5:39 pm to
Shel, very sorry for your loss. Losing ones mother is an eye opening experience. My heartfelt condolences on the loss of your mother and may my prayers help comfort you.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2298 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 6:09 pm to
Offering condolences to you and your family.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55856 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

He literally did those little things last offseason, maintaining is the issue
debatable
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25887 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

debatable


No it's not. He was up at 4 or 5am everyday and lost like what? 50 lbs?

Consistency is the only issue at this point.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20670 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:15 pm to
Prayers. Deepest condolences to you and your family.
This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 8:34 am
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

He hired a personal chef last year. Do you know he has a shite diet? Do you know more than his personal chef?


I doubt the personal chef was hanging out and swatting Mountain Dew and Doritos out of his hand during a late night Naruto binge.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11723 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 12:14 am to
I no longer feel invested about anything Zion that isnt on the court during the season and playing.

I don't care about him speaking and telling fans what they want to hear, posting dunk vids, posting workout vids, pressers about personal health chefs or anything.

2 years in a row your team top to bottom was battling for the playoffs...this year was even the no.1 seed for a moment.

I dont want to take anything away from the Nuggets and what they did. However I do think based on the way everything played out we had a team that could have stopped them if healthy.

That infamous dunk that fired us up at the time..."a year ago those guys sent my brothers home"

No Zion. You have to be there. Playing. You have McCollum giving you the answers and still you have tried numerous times to do your own thing.

You said "Let's Dance" on draft night...quit standing us all up


Posted by England_Pelican
England
Member since Apr 2018
3948 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 12:29 am to
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This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 12:31 am
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 12:29 am to
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I immediately thought my Mom is an old lady from south Louisiana and can cook a mean gumbo. Please keep her far away from Zion!!! So yea, that's what's going through my head while the priest is praying over my dying Mother


My condolences.
Posted by England_Pelican
England
Member since Apr 2018
3948 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 12:30 am to
Sorry for your sad news Shel. Sad to read. My condolences
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 3:15 am to
I’m truly sorry to hear that man. I know you think im an ahole but I had no idea. This bickering about our sports teams is nothing compared to our loved ones. Just a note, these things don’t bother me, I don’t get hurt by words on a message board. But I can get a better idea of your posts and I would say if this is an outlet for you by all means use it brother. I’ll let you be and hopefully you and the rest of your family finds some peace in this difficult time.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5632 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 3:26 am to
Im glad he said all this. This is really all i wanted to hear from him for the last couple of years. Just needed to feel some sense of accountability and self awarness.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11201 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 5:50 am to
This segment blew up and everybody is talking about it. I've rewatched it a half dozen times. I still don't know what to think about it. I feel bad for Zion cause you can see he's conflicted and confused. He doesn't understand why this is all happening or what to do going forward.

Obviously he wants to play. But he can't grasp everything else that comes with being a player. I watched Draymond Green on Paul George's podcast and they talked about everything involved with being prepared to play. They both straight up hate it, but realize all that work has to be done.

I think it shows that it is salvageable if they take immediate action. He has 4 years of sporadic training/habits, he can't find balance. He needs that comfort of routine. But he says that he needs better people around him. I don't know who takes the initiative and puts those people in place. IMO everybody associated with this situation sucks, the team, Zion, his agents, PR team, trainers, nutritionists, chefs, family, entourage.. so much blame to go around..
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 6:38 am to
Thanks for the kind words from all our fellow Pelibros

Let's get back to some big Z talk!!
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 2:04 pm to
I thought round about Z said the same stuff last year? Not hating on him but I remember a huge article where he similarly talked about this stuff. At the end of the day he just needs to play 60 plus games next season.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 2:23 pm to
I have a tough time with the Zion pity party.  
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11201 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

have a tough time with the Zion pity party.  



He's a big arse kid. I hope nobody hates him. He just doesn't have any guidance and he's playing at being a professional. I don't know if he ever gets serious. I'd rather it not be us trying to make it happen. But he has so little value. People scoffed, but he couldn't pull a top 3 pick in this past draft by himself. That's scary..
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