re: Zion lost weight

Just google "Zion suicide" and there's articles.

It's basically a Biggie song lyric he quoted on his IG story.

It’s literally just a song on an album that he’s been referencing for about a year now. I’ve seen him post these lyrics before as well.

I’m just going to chalk it up to Zion liking the album and song and not being too bright. More and more evidence of that lately tbh. He still doesn’t understand what he should and shouldn’t say in this social media age of 2023.

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If we want to contend, we really need him healthy for 85-100 games a season after including the playoffs.

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It takes 20-22 playoff games to win a title. Zion playing 60-65 games in the regular season is enough. He will never play north of 90 games in a season. No one does today. Jokic just played 79 games total.

This is also part of why Jordan was just incredible. He played at or near 100 in each of the bulls 6 championship seasons.

I don’t disagree with your conclusion on his conditioning but I think the target is 80-85 games all in each year.

2019: 86 games combined
2020: 122 games combined (shitty roster, shitty coach, shitty Covid season, both injured late at in opportune times)
2021: 55 games combined
2022: 74 games combined

I’m just being a realist baw

If they combine for 125 games and the rest of the roster stays reasonably healthy, we are a top 5 seed.

Of course I want them to play more than that. I’m just attempting to be a realist. You aren’t really arguing w the right person on this topic tbh. We are basically on the same side of the fence regarding Zion if you read through the thread.

2 things we have to take into account that pretty much guarantees Z or Bi will
Never play a full 82

Z is overweight and plays a physical playstyle

Bi is underweight and gets beat up. People also forget about his life threatening blood clots from several years ago. They were caused by lifting weights differently after a shoulder injury. That is why the guy takes forever to come back from injuries. Bc the last time he was somewhat casual with a rehab process, he almost died. People underrate that situation on this board when talking about Ingram recovery times. Dude is paranoid from overcompensating from an injury and getting blood clots again (bc it already happened once).

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I'm not disagreeing. I just don't think it's a realistic way to move forward. If these players are that fragile, then we should move away from them. We can't plan around them only being available 75% of the time (or less). The margins are too narrow to be successful that way.

People are going to point to guys like Kawhi Leonard, Embiid and Durant missing time. But they haven't won anything in a long time, cause they can't stay healthy and the teams falter. It's not a viable plan moving forward.

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The vast majority of "stars" play fewer than 70 games per season.

Jokic played 69 this season, Murray played 65, Butler played 64, Bam played 75, LeBron played 55, AD played 56, Tatum played 74, Jaylen Brown played 67. Those are the "star" players from the conference finals teams. Only 25% of them played more than 70 games. A "good" expectation is for your star players to play somewhere between 60-70 games. I'm not really a fan of that either, but that's what the NBA is in today's game.

If you look at the top 30 scorers in the NBA from last season, only 8 of them played more than 70 games.

*I just picked 30 players because there are 30 teams, so that would represent the average top scorer for each team, though I do realize that there are teams with more than one player in the top 30 scorers*

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No pics but I can send wife pics so I don't break any rules

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Nope, just Zion pics please....maybe?