re: Would you agree with this analyst of Brandon Ingram?

1 more point on the TS% that was posted... .. 582 to .587 is fine. It's a perfectly fine TS% for a good basketball player. But I truly think BI has the type of game to at least be knocking on the door of a top 20 type player. And to get there, you probably gotta be more efficient.

Very informally looking at some of the best non-centers in the league...There's probably only 2 or so dudes you'd consider top 20 that had sub .600 TS% numbers:

- Lebron - his excuse is valid, he's old as frick. And obviously he does other shite with passing and controlling a game to make up for it
- Ja Morant - Had a pretty awful TS%, and I think I can very easily argue he wasn't top 20 last season while I feel like 99% would disagree...but he just was way too inefficient to be considered top 20 ish level IMO



Ingram has the offensive game to be more efficient, and he can get there by not settling so much for midrange jumpers that are, even if really good to elite for BI, still inefficient compared to 3s and shots at the rim because he's not making 60% of his middies. So less midrange shots, more 3s/more shots at the rim and use the midrange when it's late in the shot clock and stop just making that your normal or main part of your game, and he can unlock that .600 TS% which could get him in that next tier of top 20-25 type dudes.

Agreed you're going to run into that jaylen brown territory with him. Where you have to pay him to keep him, but he's a 1b star.

Now if he ups the numbers to 27/6/6 and maintains efficiency, and stays healthy - you wonder if that's worth of those 5/250+ deals

You all 2K fans keep discounting BI …. He just needs to stay healthy. Pels are entering prime BI years.

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The REAL question is...what do the Pels think? They were 29th out of 30 teams, in 3-pt shots taken per game last year, even with Zion (& his <1 3-pt shot per game) playing very little minutes. All things being equal...Zion playing decent minutes this year should pull us down to 30th on 3-pt attempts per game this year.

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I don’t equate Brandon’s level play to the volume of threes he takes. Why is that your determining factor? Brandon was excellent, in particular down the stretch as the open threes he created were valuable.

Your guy, Herb Jones, was a beneficiary of Ingrams elite playmaking.

I think when Zion plays, the opportunity for BI to have more open catch and shoot 3s will increase. When Zion isn’t playing the entire defense is zoned in on stopping just BI and he’s having to work harder to get good shots.

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As I said, you may well be right & I may be wrong. The Pels (& Borrego) may be totally content with BI shooting 20% of his shots from the 3-pt line...or they may prefer that he ups that % a bit. Should be fairly easy to figure out which they prefer...once the season gets going. Either way...we're all hopin' for a big year out of BI.

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Okay. So we’ve established a fair and friendly discord here…my question is why are you equating lesser play from BI these past 2 years than the previous 2 to mean “less 3 point attempts” by Ingram?

BI is actually an above average defender when he tries. He is like most top tier players who give less effort on defense to conserve more for offense. Giving full effort on both sides will wear down anyone besides Jordan and Kobe over the course of a full season. Thats why Jordan is still slighlty ahead of LeBron in the GOAT debate. LeBron for the last 75% of his career has not tried on defense during the regular season which is why he is headed to season 21 and Jordan only played 15