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re: Would Thomas Robinson fit in w/ AD23?
Posted on 5/30/13 at 8:21 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 5/30/13 at 8:21 pm to Chad504boy
Don't worry. We're sure to get him one way or another. This draft is full of Thomas Robinsons.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 8:22 pm to The Future
He was pretty athletic in college. He would take his defenders off the dribble all the time. Not saying he could do the same in the NBA but he isn't unathletic. He also had some nice post moves and a decent jumper in college. It makes no sense that he sucks so bad in the NBA. I thought he'd be right behind AD for best rookie in the class and would challenge for ROY.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 8:30 pm to tehchampion140
He's not a bad player, he just is what he is
Posted on 5/30/13 at 8:47 pm to The Future
Nobody has discussed my OP title lulz
Posted on 5/30/13 at 8:49 pm to The Future
It's too early to say he sucks. I think he'll be a decent NBA player.
That being said, we don't need him, so no. I wouldn't trade for him.
That being said, we don't need him, so no. I wouldn't trade for him.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 9:05 pm to Suntiger
someone said something about trading him for Lance Thomas and a future 2nd round pick...
if that's the case, hell yeah.
He can't be as bad as Lance Thomas and 2nd round picks aren't of much value.
if that's the case, hell yeah.
He can't be as bad as Lance Thomas and 2nd round picks aren't of much value.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 9:39 pm to Iamnick
David West was worthless for 2 years and came in to the league at 23, after a 4 year career at Xavier
TRob made 22 like 2.5 months ago
I think he has some upsdie
TRob made 22 like 2.5 months ago
I think he has some upsdie
Posted on 5/30/13 at 9:43 pm to Fun Bunch
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He has no upside, that was the knock on him.
Dude sucks. Maybe he can be a serviceable player at some point. Maybe.
i dont know how anyone can say this consider guys like Vazquez, Jason Smith, Ryan Andersen, Robin Lopez all who took 2-3 years to even be a serviceable NBA player
As well as David West as i just mentioned
the league is FULL of players who didnt do shite until they were given a chance.
And he was traded once because he has some value. HOU really like Patterson and they also packaged Toney Douglas who saw nice minutes with them. It's not like he was handed over, "here take him, he's garbage!"
Posted on 5/30/13 at 9:50 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
"here, take him. he's garbage!"
Posted on 5/30/13 at 10:27 pm to The Future
6-10 and 240 lbs is undersized for a power forward? When did this happen?
Posted on 5/30/13 at 10:39 pm to Lester Earl
We spent two years trying to make chicken salad out of Xavier Henry's chickenshit career. I see no reason why we shouldn't do it with Robinson.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 10:44 pm to Lester Earl
I usually say teams should give a player 3 years. That doesn't mean we should.
He was the 4th string PF for the Rockets. Clearly, as of now, he sucks.
And he's a terrible pair with AD. If we are literally giving up nothing but cap space, maybe. But if rather have the 3.5 million.
He was the 4th string PF for the Rockets. Clearly, as of now, he sucks.
And he's a terrible pair with AD. If we are literally giving up nothing but cap space, maybe. But if rather have the 3.5 million.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 10:48 pm to Fun Bunch
Also the DWest "argument", if that's what you want to call it, is dumb as frick. It's a straw man.
I'll start listing every top 5 pick that never amounted to shite..see how that works?
The only player that should be discussed is Robinson.
I get that people think Top 5 pick for nothing...but I see teams dumping him quickly and that tells me there's something wrong, like laziness.
I'll start listing every top 5 pick that never amounted to shite..see how that works?
The only player that should be discussed is Robinson.
I get that people think Top 5 pick for nothing...but I see teams dumping him quickly and that tells me there's something wrong, like laziness.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 10:52 pm to Fun Bunch
im not saying we should either.
but to say he has no upside is kinda silly.
David west is just one example. If you follow the NBA i shouldnt even have to name names of guys that are late bloomers. don't compare the 2 exclusively, then, it's no big deal.
but to say he has no upside is kinda silly.
David west is just one example. If you follow the NBA i shouldnt even have to name names of guys that are late bloomers. don't compare the 2 exclusively, then, it's no big deal.
This post was edited on 5/30/13 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:01 pm to Fun Bunch
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but I see teams dumping him quickly and that tells me there's something wrong, like laziness.
Could be true but at the same time it's fairly low risk investment.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:02 pm to Lester Earl
I guess we have different definitions of upside.
Yours seems to be: can he develop into a somewhat serviceable player?
Mine is: can he be significantly better player than he was on entering the league? Can he live up to being picked 5th.
To me the answer is probably not.
Yours seems to be: can he develop into a somewhat serviceable player?
Mine is: can he be significantly better player than he was on entering the league? Can he live up to being picked 5th.
To me the answer is probably not.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:13 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
Yours seems to be: can he develop into a somewhat serviceable player?
Im only looking at his future value what he'll likely command in a trade.
His upside would seem to be pretty high if someone bought him this low.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:57 pm to Lester Earl
He hasn't even really been given a chance to play. He averaged 15 MPG on the season. Im not sure where he was supposed to steal minutes. He was playing behind some vets.
He played 20-29 minutes in 19 games (23.5 avg) and averaged 9/6 while shooting 48%.
He played over 30 minutes 1 game and posted 12/4 while shooting 71%.
PER 36
11 PPG
11 RPG
2 APG
1 BPG
1 SPG
52% FG
13 rookies averaged more than 20 MPG this season.
4 averaged double digit points.
6 averaged 5+ rebounds (Robinson was 8th best).
If you are writing off TRob, you are writing off about 75% of the rookie class.
He played 20-29 minutes in 19 games (23.5 avg) and averaged 9/6 while shooting 48%.
He played over 30 minutes 1 game and posted 12/4 while shooting 71%.
PER 36
11 PPG
11 RPG
2 APG
1 BPG
1 SPG
52% FG
13 rookies averaged more than 20 MPG this season.
4 averaged double digit points.
6 averaged 5+ rebounds (Robinson was 8th best).
If you are writing off TRob, you are writing off about 75% of the rookie class.
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