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Posted on 7/3/22 at 12:58 pm to teke184
Make no mistake, I am perfectly fine running it back plus Zion next season and seeing where the chips fall.
We will likely be anywhere from a 4-seed to a 7-seed in the West and have a shot to make it to the 2nd round.
If we are able to add Durant though without losing Zion and BI, we become instant title contenders and I just think people on this board are not even realizing that because they are letting Durant's douchebaggery cloud that.
We will likely be anywhere from a 4-seed to a 7-seed in the West and have a shot to make it to the 2nd round.
If we are able to add Durant though without losing Zion and BI, we become instant title contenders and I just think people on this board are not even realizing that because they are letting Durant's douchebaggery cloud that.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 12:59 pm to Macintosh
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Yeah I like how people are saying KD might not make us one of the best teams in the league but Adding Zion back from injury would.
Last time I checked Zion was the younger player. No one is arguing against KD because of the player. Everyone knows KD is still a top 3 player in the NBA but it's his age & baggage that people are worried about.
Some fans get caught up with adding talent but at what costs does that additional talent have in terms of team chemistry & locker room culture? The people saying no to adding KD realize both. We all saw how this young team became a close family as the season progressed. We saw how that spilled over with the play on the court. KD is standoffish & a loner. Anyone who thinks he wouldn't negatively effect an already positive locker room is kidding themselves.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:01 pm to BigBrod81
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We all saw how this young team became a close family as the season progressed. We saw how that spilled over with the play on the court. KD is standoffish & a loner. Anyone who thinks he wouldn't negatively effect an already positive locker room is kidding themselves.
People were saying negative things about our locker room before last season. Willie changed that. I think as long as he is the coach, the locker room will be fine.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:02 pm to teke184
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About the only people who didn’t think Westbrook was washed were in LA or were a dumbass on ESPN like Perk.
Yep. All the impact metrics, like RAPTOR and LEBRON, showed that Westbrook was a negative player before the trade. He produced below-average play his last season in Washington. Any kind of analytic approach would have said "don't trade for Westbrook."
For comparison, KD finished 8th in LEBRON and 14th in RAPTOR last season, despite having poor pieces around him. If Durant had better complementary pieces, he'd have finished a good bit higher.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:03 pm to Broski
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I love what CJ injected into the team last year, but having followed his career in Portland, I think some fans are in for a rude awakening if they think he is the alpha that puts us over the top.
CJ isn't & doesn't have to be the alpha on this team. BI took a major step showing that's what he is for the Pels. Zion's talent alone puts him at alpha status because of the attention he is going to garner from opposing teams.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:04 pm to Broski
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If we are able to add Durant though without losing Zion and BI, we become instant title contenders and I just think people on this board are not even realizing that because they are letting Durant's douchebaggery cloud that
You absolutely do that if you dont lose those guys. Most people just dont want to give up 10+ years of BI for 3 years of KD.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:06 pm to Broski
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People were saying negative things about our locker room before last season. Willie changed that. I think as long as he is the coach, the locker room will be fine
Then why mess with a good thing & a group of players who have already brought into his message? I'm sorry but KD isn't going to change who he is in a locker room at this point of his career. His accomplishments & veteran status only worsens his attitude.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:07 pm to Sauce Castieaux
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You absolutely do that if you dont lose those guys. Most people just dont want to give up 10+ years of BI for 3 years of KD.
I agree, I've said from the start BI and Zion are off the table.
I do think it's foolish to think you have 10+ years of BI though, that just doesn't happen in the NBA anymore.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:07 pm to Sauce Castieaux
Right. We’re almost all in agreement that we cannot give up BI.
KD is 10 years older. BI hasn’t even touched his prime yet and just averaged 27 PPG in his first playoff series. I’m not trading that guy.
KD is 10 years older. BI hasn’t even touched his prime yet and just averaged 27 PPG in his first playoff series. I’m not trading that guy.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:08 pm to BigBrod81
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Then why mess with a good thing & a group of players who have already brought into his message?
Because we're still not a title contender as presently constructed, we need more talent and you have to take risks to do that.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:10 pm to Sauce Castieaux
quote:lol if you think BI is gonna be here for 10 years unless there’s a ring during the process or at least a finals appearance. This is the nba, it’s very rare for guys to be on one team for that long. It’s more likely he leaves this team after his contract runs out in 3 years than him be here for that long.
Most people just dont want to give up 10+ years of BI for 3 years of KD.
And honestly I think the idea is to keep BI while still acquiring KD but we’ll see.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:10 pm to Broski
I personally think we are outside of the back end of the roster. I really think if graham accepts his role as a catch and shoot player, he will earn himself some cash. Alvarado and others will run the offense on the second team, not him. Hell with CJ, Zion, and BI, he shouldnt even try to put any burden on himself to run it. While his salary sucks, I think he is still potentially useful as a shooter if he limits the stupid shot selection. Starting 5 is championship caliber, I said it.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:10 pm to Broski
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do think it's foolish to think you have 10+ years of BI though, that just doesn't happen in the NBA anymore.
I think its doable...that would take him to what? 34
Know things can change in a heartbeat but id honestly put him in NO longer than Zion if i was a betting man
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:12 pm to Macintosh
I mean thats fair... but given what he was already here for with SVG i think he is here for the long haul.
The dude seems different. He just seems more relaxed here than most. More introverted
The dude seems different. He just seems more relaxed here than most. More introverted
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:13 pm to Broski
4-5 sounds doable depending on how we match up with Denver, Memphis, GSW. No telling what Phoenix looks like.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:13 pm to Sauce Castieaux
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He just seems more relaxed here than most.
We said this about AD, just saying.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:20 pm to Broski
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We said this about AD, just saying.
Think there is one key difference. BI was there during the Lebron years where the guy he played with activly wanted him traded. That kind of hits different.
AD was always the guy in NO. People always catered to what he wanted and had to walk on egg shells to keep him happy.
BI had a franchise give up on him. AD was the one who quit on a team
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:22 pm to Sauce Castieaux
quote:after he was diagnosed with a pretty scary medical situation. They straight up dumped him for the prettier girl (metaphorically at least).
BI had a franchise give up on him.
he believes the Pelicans believe in him. He said so just yesterday
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:24 pm to cgrand
They were trying to toss him at the deadline before his diagnosis.
Same with Hart, Ball, Kuzma, and anyone else on the roster who wasn’t signed to Klutch.
Same with Hart, Ball, Kuzma, and anyone else on the roster who wasn’t signed to Klutch.
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