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Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:53 pm to hendersonshands
In 8 weeks apparently when it has taken 4 years for other bigs to develop anything close to a jump shot
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:54 pm to hendersonshands
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That's the whole fricking point of the 34 games and no real offseason comments. When was he supposed to develop this defensive ability and jump shot?
His first game he was shooting open three's.
Do I expect him to be a 3-point shooter? frick no. But he wasn't afraid to take a jump shot early on... now all of the sudden he is.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:57 pm to Broski
Nobody thinks he's where he needs to be, but if you can't look at the situation with a little nuance, then you're just being emotional and crying all over your keyboard about it.
Refusing to acknowledge that the number of games he's played is a big factor in him not having progressed like you would've hoped is just idiotic.
Refusing to acknowledge that the number of games he's played is a big factor in him not having progressed like you would've hoped is just idiotic.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:59 pm to hendersonshands
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then you're just being emotional and crying all over your keyboard about it.
This is such a lame message board trope, you're better than this.
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Refusing to acknowledge that the number of games he's played is a big factor in him not having progressed like you would've hoped is just idiotic.
Where did I refuse or refute any of that?
Basically we're both arguing one point and not granting the other's side at all.
You want to be a republican or democrat? I'll let you pick first.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:00 am to Broski
That's the difference in the offense that's being run. He averaged less than 1 attempt from 3 per game last year. He's taking fewer this year but he wasn't just letting them fly last year either.
Stan mentioned quite a bit that he thinks Zion is unstoppable heading to the rim so that's the sets they're running for him. He's not finishing as well as I think he should be on a lot of them, but he's also being fouled a shite ton.
I'd honestly rather see him work on his free throws than 3 pointers at this stage.
Stan mentioned quite a bit that he thinks Zion is unstoppable heading to the rim so that's the sets they're running for him. He's not finishing as well as I think he should be on a lot of them, but he's also being fouled a shite ton.
I'd honestly rather see him work on his free throws than 3 pointers at this stage.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:00 am to Broski
AD was like this also with no outside shot, he developed it over time. I trust Zion can do the same because of his work ethic.
Zion/Ingram are the least of our worries on this team.
Edit: Zion on offense helps so much when guys drive in on him because he needs to be double team, just that our guys aren’t making shots outside of the perimeter. They are doing what we are doing on defense. Let everyone shoot 3s and take away the inside paint.
Zion/Ingram are the least of our worries on this team.
Edit: Zion on offense helps so much when guys drive in on him because he needs to be double team, just that our guys aren’t making shots outside of the perimeter. They are doing what we are doing on defense. Let everyone shoot 3s and take away the inside paint.
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 12:02 am
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:01 am to Broski
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Where did I refuse or refute any of that?
Literally this
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Spare me with the 34 games bullshite.
is
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Refusing to acknowledge that the number of games he's played is a big factor in him not having progressed like you would've hoped
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:06 am to hendersonshands
Ok, fair you got me there.
However, I don't think playing 34 games is why he is struggling. I think he could've had 100 games under his belt and he still wouldn't fit in Stan's half court system.
Gentry needed to go, but we needed to bring in someone who still ran an uptempo style to accentuate Zion's strength.
However, I don't think playing 34 games is why he is struggling. I think he could've had 100 games under his belt and he still wouldn't fit in Stan's half court system.
Gentry needed to go, but we needed to bring in someone who still ran an uptempo style to accentuate Zion's strength.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:08 am to Broski
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However, I don't think playing 34 games is why he is struggling. I think he could've had 100 games under his belt and he still wouldn't fit in Stan's half court system.
That's a different argument. I'm also not loving the system. I think Stan is just going super slow to help out our defense to be honest.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:09 am to Broski
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Gentry needed to go, but we needed to bring in someone who still ran an uptempo style to accentuate Zion's strength.
D’Antoni would’ve been great for us.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:09 am to hendersonshands
Which is a hell of a thing to sacrifice considering that we've given up 110+ points in 8 straight games now.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:10 am to 50_Tiger
Covid bubble season with a short turnaround
SVG hired 10/21
Bledsoe, Adams acquired 11/16
Kira Lewis drafted 11/18
These guys haven’t played a full season of games yet
Zion 20 y/o, 33 career games
Hayes 20 y/o, 74 career games
NAW 22 y/o, 55 career games
JJ, Hart, Lonzo and Melli are shooting 28% on 54% of the team’s 3 point attempts
Your young superstar in Ingram is trying to navigate this shitshow.
This is exactly what this current team should be doing right now
SVG hired 10/21
Bledsoe, Adams acquired 11/16
Kira Lewis drafted 11/18
These guys haven’t played a full season of games yet
Zion 20 y/o, 33 career games
Hayes 20 y/o, 74 career games
NAW 22 y/o, 55 career games
JJ, Hart, Lonzo and Melli are shooting 28% on 54% of the team’s 3 point attempts
Your young superstar in Ingram is trying to navigate this shitshow.
This is exactly what this current team should be doing right now
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:15 am to GynoSandberg
OKC, HOU, NY, CLE, CHA, IND all have new coaches and they’re all outperforming their expectations.
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 12:16 am
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:22 am to shel311
I've been waiting for someone to say it cause i didn't want to be the first 
Zion looks lazy on defense sometimes
He hasn't progressed like i thought he would. He will be fine cause he's zion but during the off season he needs to work on a few things
Zion looks lazy on defense sometimes
He hasn't progressed like i thought he would. He will be fine cause he's zion but during the off season he needs to work on a few things
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:44 am to duyp
None of those teams are over .500 besides the pacers, and they returned a playoff squad from a year ago
Mark Daigneault came up through the thunder Org, there is continuity there.
Houston is (was?) a veteran team with talent , they’ve under performed if anything
Knicks are an EC version of us
Hat tip to the Cavs, they are playing good ball for
perceived bad team
Hornets don’t have a new coach
And again, Pacers returned a bunch of good, “young vets” from a playoff team a year ago
Hart, Ball, Reddick are on the final year of their deals. Bledsoe is going to be traded. This team can look real different in a hurry.
If you went in to this thinking it was the final spin of the Rubix cube then you yourself up for disappointment
Mark Daigneault came up through the thunder Org, there is continuity there.
Houston is (was?) a veteran team with talent , they’ve under performed if anything
Knicks are an EC version of us
Hat tip to the Cavs, they are playing good ball for
perceived bad team
Hornets don’t have a new coach
And again, Pacers returned a bunch of good, “young vets” from a playoff team a year ago
Hart, Ball, Reddick are on the final year of their deals. Bledsoe is going to be traded. This team can look real different in a hurry.
If you went in to this thinking it was the final spin of the Rubix cube then you yourself up for disappointment
Posted on 1/16/21 at 1:47 am to hendersonshands
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he is still in the process of gathering ammo to make his move, the move needs to happen by this upcoming offseason.
This offseason? Unless the move is for Bradley Beal, there's no other guy that is worth unloading the war chest. The purpose behind gathering all those assets is to go get the next disgruntled star. I just hope Griffin isnt like Ainge and actually goes and gets a guy. Btw, that guy is indeed Bradley Beal if and when the Wizards decide to trade him.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 4:49 am to Broski
Daddy AD owns the birdz
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:30 am to 50_Tiger
By next trade deadline. We need to see a cohesive roster with a plan and development by next years trade deadline.
If we don’t then it’s time to move on.
If we don’t then it’s time to move on.
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