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What’s y’all thoughts on Becky Hammon?

Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:38 pm
Posted by BallChamp00
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:38 pm
Is she in the running?
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:42 pm to
Yes, no, maybe, dont want to get called sexist.
Posted by Whodatforlife21
Big Easy
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:42 pm to
Rather Nancy Lieberman
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:46 pm to
People’s obsession with her on the pels subreddit while not even knowing any other assistant coaches that are equally qualified if not more makes me not want her
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:05 pm to
She would not be a candidate for any head coaching job if she had a penis
Posted by Aussie_Pelican
Melbourne
Member since Oct 2016
1198 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:12 pm to
She's ok, but not my type.
Posted by BayouRat15
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:29 pm to
Po Boys
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 9/4/20 at 8:04 am to
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She would not be a candidate for any head coaching job if she had a penis


horseshite, she is the senior assistant from the single largest coaching and organizational tree in the league.

Mike Bundenholzer, Brett Brown, James Borrego, Quin Snyder, Taylor Jenkins, Jim Boylen, and Mike Brown amongst others that have been a part of that tree.

Then you have Ime Udoka and Jacque Vaughn who have gotten fanfare here as potential hires, guess where they were assistants?

I think the real question is, what is it about Becky that suddenly makes you so repulsed about the prospect of considering the single most successful organizational tree in the last two decades in our hiring pool?

I personally think she is the head coach in waiting in SA, but the idea that no one would consider the lead assistant of the Spurs is absurd.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/4/20 at 8:14 am to
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she is the senior assistant from the single largest coaching and organizational tree in the league.


No she isn't. Stop saying this.

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I think the real question is, what is it about Becky that suddenly makes you so repulsed about the prospect of considering the single most successful organizational tree in the last two decades in our hiring pool?



B/c the tree isn't that successful (Quin Snyder spent 3 years coaching their g-league team, the rest are either too early to tell, or been fired from their first job.) I don't hold this tree in high regards like others do.

WHy would we want to hire someone with just 6 years of experiencing as an assistant when there are multiple assistants out there with much better resumes?
THis is the real question.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 9/4/20 at 8:15 am to
And the Spurs haven't exactly been a dynasty since she has been there...
Posted by Lakebound
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 9/4/20 at 8:45 am to
You mean Fletcher Mackel’s side piece?
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:06 am to
No one here likes her. I personally hope she is a HC soon.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:06 am to
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B/c the tree isn't that successful


Its pretty successful and has some winners and losers just like any coaching tree. Budenholzer is very successful, for instance. Don't be a prisoner of the moment.

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WHy would we want to hire someone with just 6 years of experiencing as an assistant


6 years as an assistant is actually a pretty long time. There are plenty of guys that have been hired with less.

She has served as their Summer League coach if that means anything.

I do agree though, she will be the next HC of the Spurs.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:19 am to
She is the first on the bench in SA, she is the top assistant. Every major assistant in SA, hell, people that run their G-league teams, are always moving up the ranks in this league and are in major conversations. Why Becky would be any different is a you question.

This isn’t about whether she is the best candidate, I don’t personally think she is, this is in response to the full on reflexive garbage that if she were a man she wouldn’t be considered by anyone. Becky can both be over pumped by people wanting to virtue signal without the need to go into absurdity in the opposite direction.

But name me a larger, more successful organizational tree? I would like to hear? Because before this offseason around a quarter of the head coaches in this league had direct Spurs roots or Pop was considered a core influence and mentor.
This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 9:21 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25644 posts
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:31 am to
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6 years as an assistant is actually a pretty long time. There are plenty of guys that have been hired with less.



6 years is not a long time when you have no prior relevant experience.
The only guys that have been hired with less are guys that actually played in the NBA for over a decade. Her WNBA experience isn't relevant experience.

Would anyone give Dan Craig a look if all he had was 6 years experience, with the majority of it not sitting behind the bench? The answer is hell no, b/c like Hammon, he has no prior relevant experience as a player, and 6 years as an assistant, not even a 2nd or 3rd lead assistant for most of it, isn't a resume that should be considered for a head coaching position.


We have mentioned many assistants here, and all of them have a ton of more experience than Hammon, yet you idiots want to keep bringing her up b/c she's a her.
Will Hardy has been with the spurs for 10 years, longer than her. Why not mention him? He's been the summer league coach for the spurs for 3 years if that means anything, and all of those 3 years were when Hammon was on staff. What does that tell you?
Chip Engelland has been there 15 years. Why not mention him?
You could make a case that Tim Duncan's resume is better than Hammon's at this time, and it'll certainly be better in a a few years.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115984 posts
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:40 am to
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yet you idiots


Tone it down.

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Will Hardy has been with the spurs for 10 years, longer than her.


Well, this thread isn't about Will Hardy, but I consider him to be the lead assistant in SAS. The reason why I don't think he will be the next HC is because of Pop's progressive tendencies, I think he wants to be known for making Hammon the first woman HC.

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Chip Engelland has been there 15 years. Why not mention him?


I guess because I've never heard anyone mention him for a job ever.

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You could make a case that Tim Duncan's resume is better than Hammon's at this time, and it'll certainly be better in a a few years.


I've heard a lot of people say they don't even know of Duncan will be back next year, that he really doesn't want to Coach long term.


Hammon isn't even on my personal short list, so relax.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25644 posts
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:43 am to
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She is the first on the bench in SA, she is the top assistant


No she isn't. Hardy is. And Hardy was interviewed by the Knicks.
She was literally the last in line her previous 5 years in SAS until all the head assistants left the last two years.

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Every major assistant in SA, hell, people that run their G-league teams, are always moving up the ranks in this league and are in major conversations. Why Becky would be any different is a you question.


She most certainly can be, when she gets more experience under her belt. SHe's not there yet.

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But name me a larger, more successful organizational tree? I would like to hear? Because before this offseason around a quarter of the head coaches in this league had direct Spurs roots or Pop was considered a core influence and mentor.


Could care less about a coaching tree.
Half the coaches in this supposed coaching tree have such a minute connection to them it's not even funny.
Monty played in SAS for two fricking years, and never coached there in any form or fashion, yet he's part of this tree.
Mike Brown was an assistant there for 3 years, then went be an assistant somewhere else for 3 years, then became a head coach. Sounds like a real strong branch of the tree. ALmost 20 years as an assistant, 3 with the spurs, but he's part of the tree.
Quin Snyder never actually sat on the spurs bench, ever. He was the g-league coach for 3 years. He was an assistant for other teams for 4 years after that before becoming a head coach. Real strong branch again.
Jim Boylen was a coach for 30 years before getting the Bulls job. He spent 2 of them in SAS, yet he's part of this tree.

Brett Brown and Budenholzer are good examples. You know what they both have in common? They spent over a decade in the Spurs organization before becoming head coaches, not 6 years.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:43 am to
don’t hurt yourself with those mental gymnastics. Nash is cool with his zero experience but apparently woman’s basketball provides zero substantive experience for men’s basketball.

Weird how the stuff you use in coaching men’s basketball pretty easily translates when coaching a girls team.

Weird also how Derick Fisher went over to the WNBA and got to the semifinals his first season and tied for the second best record this season. Almost like experience does in fact translate across leagues.

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25644 posts
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:50 am to
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Hammon isn't even on my personal short list, so relax.



my apologies for my tone.

To be clear, i think in 3 or 4 years, she has the potential to have a very strong case to be a HC candidate. SHe's just not there right now, and the only reason any one mentions her is b/c she's a woman, and it's stupid b/c her resume doesn't warrant being mentioned right now. 10 years under her belt under Pop will be a damn strong resume, and start getting her deserved mentioning. She's a few years away from where Will Hardy is currently, and he's just starting to get interviews.
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1653 posts
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:51 am to
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Weird also how Derick Fisher went over to the WNBA and got to the semifinals his first season and tied for the second best record this season. Almost like experience does in fact translate across leagues.


I’m not sure this proves what you think it does.
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