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re: What's crazy about the current state of our team is the young core
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:57 am to Townedrunkard
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:57 am to Townedrunkard
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And just think if we had kept the nba steals leader and one of the best wing defenders in the league and only 21….
He didn't fit with Zion......
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:58 am to biggdogg
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Another great point I have made before.
Michael Jordan took 7 years to win his first
LeBron James took 9 years to win his first
Playoff game or title?
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:59 am to higgsBoson
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Give Zion one more year next year and then see where you’re at trade wise or buy in wise.
Then you are not addressing the real problem.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:59 am to Townedrunkard
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And just think if we had kept the nba steals leader and one of the best wing defenders in the league and still only 21….
The Murray trade was a massive disaster, especially with his injury. Another short sighted win now move that will cost us dearly. Doing that trade without a BI one in your pocket was one of the worst moves we’ve made.
However, given Dysons comments he clearly didn’t like it here so…
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:01 am to NOFOX
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Zion-Herb-Missi core will never work in today’s game
BI-Herb-Missi has no fit issues
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 11:02 am
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:01 am to Macintosh
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im still listening to offers this summer for him. If it’s a solid deal, you pull the trigger. We’ve been saying the same thing for 2+ years with Zion with the same outcome of an uncertain path. If there’s a good deal, make the move.
100% Zion is no longer who I build all my hopes on but I’m not expecting a good enough offer to be worth giving up on Zion. If there is one I definitely take it.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:04 am to higgsBoson
I want Zion out of the locker room at all costs. He's an extremely talented loser who is dragging the team down around him. You absolutely cannot build a winning culture around a guy who lacks the most basic tenets of professionalism..
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:04 am to NOFOX
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That is delusional levels of hope. Herb will never be a #3. And a Zion-Herb-Missi core will never work in today’s game. You can’t get enough spacing from Trey and whatever draft pick.
Missi can’t play 30+ minutes a game sure. But center by committee with big and small lineups always makes sense. We have potential seven foot center who can play with our guys which is big. We definitely need more shooting.
And I’m not sure how delusional it is. I’ve given up hope on a championship. If we hit in the draft the next few years we can have a solid team.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:06 am to Galactic Inquisitor
We know your opinion, the horse is beyond beaten and deceased.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:07 am to higgsBoson
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However, given Dysons comments he clearly didn’t like it here so…
Dyson didn't like that the team catered to Zion's laziness.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:08 am to spaghettioeauxs
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We know your opinion, the horse is beyond beaten and deceased.
Don't even care. For every post I make about Zion being the problem, you and Shelley make 6 glossing over it to blame BI.
Sorry you don't get to maintain your low IQ echo chamber.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 11:10 am
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:09 am to higgsBoson
quote:Dysons is a nba level player but offensively is still pretty bad. Can’t shoot and can’t make free throws. I’m not losing sleep over trading him
However, given Dysons comments he clearly didn’t like it here so…
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:11 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Lol I have talked about BI maybe 2 times this season. He hasn’t played, there’s nothing to even say about him except the deadline is approaching and he’s not under contract next season.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:18 am to Split2874
Agreed on Herb, Trey, Missi as a core.
Zion and Murray have to stay because you could get squat for them right about now due to injuries.
BI has to go.
CJ could go for the right return, as we need guard depth if BI is leaving and Murray is likely out the rest of this season and much of next season.
Hawkins? I would consider flipping him for the right return now but I’d rather hold off until the offseason at a minimum.
I figure we can get an idea of how he is developing and maybe build some value for him if we decide to flip him in the offseason.
My main focuses on this point are getting under the tax and otherwise working on our depth which is shot to shite at the moment due to the injury bug.
Not that we need to win a ton of games this year but we need players to start next season and having chemistry with an existing lineup would help us next year so we don’t start the season already fricked.
Zion and Murray have to stay because you could get squat for them right about now due to injuries.
BI has to go.
CJ could go for the right return, as we need guard depth if BI is leaving and Murray is likely out the rest of this season and much of next season.
Hawkins? I would consider flipping him for the right return now but I’d rather hold off until the offseason at a minimum.
I figure we can get an idea of how he is developing and maybe build some value for him if we decide to flip him in the offseason.
My main focuses on this point are getting under the tax and otherwise working on our depth which is shot to shite at the moment due to the injury bug.
Not that we need to win a ton of games this year but we need players to start next season and having chemistry with an existing lineup would help us next year so we don’t start the season already fricked.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:19 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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He didn't fit with Zion......
Hmm, there’s plenty of room on the bench when he’s in street clothes….
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:22 am to Macintosh
Dyson is less than Herb on defense and offense right now but could mature into a player that good.
Given who we already had and what Murray represented for us as an acquisition, I don’t want to Monday morning quarterback on it. It was a risk we had to take and we just got horribly bad luck with him.
It isn’t like he had a major history of existing injuries or the Hawks concealed issues with his medicals like the Sixers did with Jrue.
Given who we already had and what Murray represented for us as an acquisition, I don’t want to Monday morning quarterback on it. It was a risk we had to take and we just got horribly bad luck with him.
It isn’t like he had a major history of existing injuries or the Hawks concealed issues with his medicals like the Sixers did with Jrue.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:23 am to higgsBoson
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The Murray trade was a massive disaster, especially with his injury. Another short sighted win now move that will cost us dearly. Doing that trade without a BI one in your pocket was one of the worst moves we’ve made.
Tried to warn yall on here when the trade went down. Nobody wanted to hear it.
And yes he is offensively challenged, but I’ve been saying, when you are already elite on one side of the ball, I’d rather go the distance and put everything in developing the other side and hope it works out.
Griff is very much like Loomis and has no long term vision. It’s been bad since day one when he made the Adams trade.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 11:25 am
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:27 am to teke184
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Dyson is less than Herb on defense and offense right now but could mature into a player that good.
He’s also 5-6 years older. Dyson is currently on pace to have a top ten season all time in steals. I’d be shocked if he’s not replacing Herb this year on the all defensive team….
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:29 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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BI-Herb-Missi has no fit issues
It’s also a play-in core
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:33 am to NOFOX
We are potentially adding a top five pick to that core plus hoping Zion pulls his head out of his arse.
Zion, Trey, and a high pick from this year is a pretty good core.
Zion, Trey, and a high pick from this year is a pretty good core.
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