What about Bradley Beal...

We better not give up 2 firsts for shite.

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I know people are worried about it but I think the risk is low. If AD leaves then you still have a star. And if you don’t want Beal moving forward you can trade him again for pics. Pretty low risk imo.

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Yeah, basically.

Its the same sort of logic with Cousins and the sort of logic you wish Demps had had in past trades.

Go after guys that have enough of a reputation that you can still get a good haul if you have to trade them.

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He would be a weird match up with Holiday. You can move back Holiday to PG. But I kind of like him more off the ball. No doubt makes us better though. I'd do it if Davis is locked up or wants it.

But, I'm seeing rumors of the Mavs offering up DSJ, Matthews and a pick. That would be a better offer..

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It works for the Nuggets(essentially starting two combo guards) because you have Jokic, and while AD has drastically improved in his capacity as a passer, he still isn't really a natural facilitator like Jokic.

So it's a reservation I have as well.

And unlike Moore, I imagine Beal is not going to want to be starting out there as an underszied three matching up against the Lebrons, Durant's, Leonard's, and Draymond Green's on a nightly basis.


But to take a positive angle, Jrue, Beal, Hill, AD, Niko or Randle(whichever you don't trade) are all players that can move the ball at above average rates for their position, so maybe you can make it work as a committee.

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This. Too much positional overlap with Jrue. So unless you’re trading Jrue for basically a push in value, no thanks.

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A trade for Beal and Sato would solve that problem. Sato would play point with Beal and Jrue as playmakers. Sato can also defend Bigger wings when necessary.

That is most likely how that would go, and that still is not an ideal arrangement IMO.

As great as Jrue is, the Warriors playoff series showed the limitations of using a 6'4 guard to cover 6'7-6'11 small forwards.

I really like the idea of trading for both Beal and Sato. It would give us 2 good ball handlers (Sato and Elf) while also adding an elite level player in Beal.

I wonder what the best course for us is:
A) get an elite level player and basically no depth, or
B) make 1 or 2 moves to add depth but no elite level player.

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But, I'm seeing rumors of the Mavs offering up DSJ, Matthews and a pick. That would be a better offer..

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I don’t think that offer is better at all than Frank, Moore, Randle, 2 1sts and I don’t even think it’s an argument. Moore gives you what you’d hope Matthews would at 40% the cost. Frank, Randle, 1st easily trump DSJ.

Edit: if Beal and Wall couldn’t work, I have no idea why Washington would think Wall/DSJ would. Maybe they’re going to try to trade Wall, but they’re not going to get jack shite back with his attitude and contract.

I’d still do the deal if that was the cost for Beal. A second 1st hurts a bit, but Beal is likely still going to be the best player in that trade, including the picks, by a good bit... he’s still young enough and a core of Jrue/Beal/Niko around either AD or the talent coming back is still pretty solid and HOPEFULLY if you have to trade AD, you get those two 1sts or so back anyways. You’d basically have a potentially superior version of those Washington teams with either core.

Trade 45 picks and everyone to have a core of AD-Jrue-Beal?

I've heard of worse plans

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I don’t think that offer is better at all than Frank, Moore, Randle, 2 1sts and I don’t even think it’s an argument. Moore gives you what you’d hope Matthews would at 40% the cost. Frank, Randle, 1st easily trump DSJ.

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I think it depends on the Wiz objectives. They are 3-4 games out of the 8th spot right now. DSJ can help cover some of Wall's minutes. Matthews can fill some of Beal's minutes and gives them a solid vet presence, plus he is a big expiring (18m). They only get the one first, but DSJ is still under rookie control for 2-3 years and they can flip him later if need be.

The Pelicans package gives them very little in the short term. Moore and Randle are not starters for them. But they will fill some minutes and they are both going to be FA (16m cap relief). But they get Jackson, who might develop, and the 2 1sts.

So short term, they get better players from the Mavs who fill more of their needs. In the long term, they get more cap relief from the Mavs trade. But you have to balance out DSJ and a 1st vs Jackson and 2 1sts. So maybe the Pelicans have a bit of an edge there. It just depends on how highly you value DSJ and what it might become.

**- I forgot to add that the Mavs had the cap space to absorb the 5M or so imbalance on the trade. I'm not sure it the Pelicans can or will need to add more to get the numbers close..