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We have 3 draft picks and 14 roster spots filled

Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:57 pm
In no particular order the pieces that could be moved include: Billy, Naji, Kira, Graham, Temple, and Hayes.

The obvious move would be Temple + 1-2 2nds for cap space. We would have 2 draft picks and a 15 man roster.

The next most obvious move would be Temple+ Graham.

It looks like our draft pick should be 1 of Ivey, Mathurin, Davis, or Daniels. We need Hayes right now unless a trade opportunity presents itself. Temple and maybe 1 of Graham/ Kira in the hot seat?

We definitely aren’t done yet.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:58 pm to
1,000,000% chance that at least 1 of those 2nd round picks is sold for cash, maybe both.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 9:59 pm to
Gonna sell those to pay for Stan

Gayle need them chips baby
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 9:59 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:01 pm to
they’ll draft and sign a player at 8
both 2nds will be disposed of either for future picks or cash

moves at the deadline if they present themselves
Posted by SHMILL
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:10 pm to
You’re not getting Ivey - not a chance unless we trade up & I don’t see that happening.

You’re choosing from Griffin, Mathurin, Davis, & possibly a player who falls to you, but it won’t be Ivey.

Not to hijack the thread an all, but what’s wrong with Mark Williams, C from Duke?

He’s a 7-footer, has quick feet like a guard, and is a nasty rim protector & will funk on you if you’re not careful. His game reminds me of a Clint Capela but with more shiftiness.

I know we have Jonas but the center position and a true point guard are our needs. I know everyone says we take the best shooter, but we already have CJ, Ingram, and now Trey Murphy who I think could’ve won us an extra game in the playoffs had he played down the stretch.

Then you’ll bring back Zion, and if your first round pick in Kira Lewis works out, we could be absolutely SET.

Just sayin..

I could also see us trading back a ways..say to 13 where you can still grab your center in either Duren or Williams and add some draft capital as well.

Or you could just play it safe and draft Mathurin or Griffin and call it a day.

I cannot wait to see what this front office does with this pick.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:12 pm to
I don’t think we trade both 2nds. We need another cheap backup PF/C. 9 backcourt 5 front court currently.

CJ/ Jose/ Kira
BI/ Graham/ Lotto
Herb/ Trey/ Naji

Zion/ Nance
Val/ Hayes/ Billy
Posted by Safety Blitz
The Backfield
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:13 pm to
That’s not a bad take. I’d like to see another big with promise drafted. It would give us flexibility with Hayes and take pressure off Valancunas.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:14 pm to
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I don’t think we trade both 2nds. We need another cheap backup PF/C


You don't draft a need in the 2nd round, you take BPA and hope to God it pans out.

Or you draft and stash someone.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:14 pm to
Center is not our position of need right now. I left out Sharpe on acccident. Ivey will probably be gone and it should be between Sharpe, Daniels, Davis, and Mathurin.
Posted by yaboidarrell
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Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:17 pm to
Trade Graham + Hayes to the Clippers for Luke Kennard.

We get a legit 2 who can score with the second unit. The Clips probably won't do that but they need a real PG and could use an athletic bigman.
Posted by SHMILL
The foothills of CO
Member since Oct 2009
999 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

That’s not a bad take. I’d like to see another big with promise drafted. It would give us flexibility with Hayes and take pressure off Valancunas.


It’s the only position where we really lack athleticism and youth - and I’m a Jonas fan. But you’re right, it gives you the flexibility you need when it comes to Hayes.

A team may get ancy and you could slide back to 12-13 and add a late to mid 1st round pick possibly.

Tons of opportunity with this pick.
Posted by SHMILL
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:32 pm to
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Center is not our position of need right now. I left out Sharpe on acccident. Ivey will probably be gone and it should be between Sharpe, Daniels, Davis, and Mathurin.


I honestly don’t think Sharpe will be there either but if so, disregard my Williams comments - I’d take the upside in Sharpe at 8 without question.
Posted by LSUneaux
NOLA
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:57 pm to
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Or you draft and stash someone.


If we draft and stash someone to Birmingham, can another team steal him? Or can another team steal undrafted players from Birmingham?
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 10:58 pm
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8431 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 12:19 am to
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If we draft and stash someone to Birmingham, can another team steal him? Or can another team steal undrafted players from Birmingham?


My interpretation of the rules is that undrafted Squadron players are free game for any of the 30 teams, but 2nd rounders would be “nba draft rights players” that we get to assign to Birmingham and keep their rights.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 12:22 am to
FYI, I believe Gary Clark cannot be signed as a 2 way player in 2022-2023 because it will be his 5th year in the league, so I wouldn’t be surprised if we keep a 2nd round pick and give them a 2 way contract.
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 2:32 am to
We already know what's happening with the second rounders
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17867 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 2:43 am to
I would imagine that ticket sales will be robust next season. And the team made money off the home postseason games.

I will be very surprised if we sell picks this year.

The options are:

- Package the two 2nds into one late 1st.

- Draft and stash

- Two-way contract

- A two-for-one trade that opens up a spot.

On that last note, you can take Billy and Naji out of the list. Billy is too valuable in the locker room -- Griff already said that he's untouchable. And Naji is a very good player for someone on a minimum contract, so there's zero reason to move him.

The trade would involve two of Graham, Temple, Kira, and Jaxson.
Posted by 50_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 5:05 am to
Dont over think this. Those two second-rounders are cash considerations.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38821 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 5:33 am to
quote:

- Draft and stash

- Two-way contract

draft and stash has to be overseas and the player has to agree to it. Two-way can be in Birmingham but again the player has to agree to it. Most 2nd round picks (at least in the 30-40 range) are looking for standard contracts, which the pels can’t do

they’ll trade/sell them both
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17867 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 6:21 am to
quote:

draft and stash has to be overseas and the player has to agree to it.


No, foreign players don't have any say about whether they are stashed for a year or two. Didi Louzada, for example, had no option to play in the NBA, except for the Pelicans, because we owned his rights.

Now, it's true that we worked out a plan with Didi that put him in the NBL, and Didi didn't have to do that and could have just stayed in Brazil. But the drafted player does not have to agree to be stashed.

More generally, I simply do not understand your confidence that both 2nd round picks will be sold or traded. Would you elaborate as to your reasoning?
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