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Tyreke needs to start at SG

Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:42 pm
Posted by LoneyROY7
Member since Jan 2012
481 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:42 pm
He's definitely proven me wrong...as a starter he's unquestionably better than Gordon. Really, this team + Jrue and Anderson - Gordon is probably the best unit that can be put out there.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 9:43 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24830 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:47 pm to
no shite, fa real?
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:53 pm to
He and Jrue should take turns handling the ball. Jrue is a good catch and shoot guy so I think they can play together.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22751 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:53 pm to
How is a team without Gordon just better than having him.

The below line up would obviously be our best rotation when healthy. What is a potential Gordon trade yielding that makes the Pelicans better?

Holiday
Gordon
Evans
Anderson
Davis
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:55 pm to
Gordon rules dude

Don't talk shite about fricking Gordo
Posted by JJtheman
Member since Mar 2014
40 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

What is a potential Gordon trade yielding that makes the Pelicans better?


The trade itself would probably not bring much. The cap space would be key.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 9:57 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24830 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:56 pm to
frick you frick you frick you.

Gordon needs to GTFO ASAP. His cap dollars could be used to add a 3 or a 5 and put us in really good shape long term.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63326 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

The below line up would obviously be our best rotation when healthy.


quote:

Holiday
Gordon
Evans
Anderson
Davis


Regardless of what people think of Gordon or his salary, you're right.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22751 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:02 pm to
Who says we are just going to be able to unload Gordon and not take back shite contracts?

My point is while Gordon has a big contract he is still a starting caliber player. I think if they could have just unloaded Gordon they would have already done it.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:03 pm to
Can we just cut Gordon after the season. Is that a possibility?
Posted by eumont
Member since Feb 2013
206 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:04 pm to
All contracts in the NBA are guaranteed
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94585 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:07 pm to
Chances of cutting Gordon are slim.

$14m a season for two seasons in dead money at worst, five seasons of just under $6m in dead money at best.

We are better off trading him or letting him play out his contract.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:12 pm to
darn
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22751 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:13 pm to
Gordon isn't even having a bad season. Honestly I think the guy gets shafted by the refs regularly when it come to drawing fouls. The commentators constantly mention it. He is averaging his lowest FT rate in his career. If he gets to the line just a little more his percentages would drastically improve and he would score probably another 2-3 pts/game.

Also his role on the team is different while his percentages and averages dictate he isn't really playing worse than the prospect we expected. He has also been extremely healthy this season.

I obviously think it would be awesome if we could just dump his contract and sign a player like Gortat in the offseason; however, highly doubtful that is even close to possible.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 10:16 pm
Posted by LoneyROY7
Member since Jan 2012
481 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:17 pm to
If Gordon improved his ball-handling, even with his diminished explosiveness, he could still be a very effective player.

But as of now, he is just very clunky and sloppy on the court at times...if he ever wants to rejuvenate his career, ball-handling is where it starts and ends.
Posted by NOLAbaby
CumTown
Member since Sep 2013
1758 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

What is a potential Gordon trade yielding that makes the Pelicans better?


Defense. Add a lengthy wing, who can hit 3's and stay in front of people. Or add a big, shot blocking hell-fiend next to AD who doesn't even have to be good offensively and that shores up the Pels best 5 lineup deficiencies
Posted by Noplacelikehome
Member since Oct 2010
2154 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:33 am to
quote:

He and Jrue should take turns handling the ball. Jrue is a good catch and shoot guy so I think they can play together.


Reke turns the ball over to much to handle it that much.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61402 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:47 am to
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Reke turns the ball over to much to handle it that much.


Tyreke TO% 14%
Jrue TO% 17.9%

Granted Jrue had a rough start to the year TO wise and Tyreke hasn't been playing PG exclusively, but both are about in line with their career numbers. Austin Rivers is probably the best ball protecting ball handling guard with a 12.0% TO%. For reference CP3's career TO% number is 13%, so Tyreke is not as turnover prone as he might seem. And the BSS recap last night had a good point that 4 of Tyreke's 7 turnovers last night came when he was playing with Aminu and Stiemsma so Brooklyn could pack the paint on him.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:51 am to
Jrue's turnover issues are overstated and have been for a while.

When you job is to pass, you turn the ball over. Ast%/Tov% for Jrue is fine, and improved through the season, as was expected.

Both a just over 2:1 in that key ratio, but Jrue does it at a higher volume since it is his job to be the primary passer more often. They are likely about equal and both capable of being point guards in term of passing ability and smarts.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61402 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:00 am to
Right, but my basic point was Tyreke and even Gordon aren't as bad as they seem. The problem, espeically with Gordon, is so many of the turnovers are unforced errors so they stand out in our minds.
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