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re: Throw all the money at Jay Wright
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:49 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:49 pm to TigerinATL
Look at the organizations those guys went into -- the whole organization is on the same page. Either already had a great culture (Boston, Utah) or developed one from scratch as new voices and the coach worked together to turn the organization around. It's why a guy like Brad Stevens would only take an NBA job if it was the PERFECT opportunity - because he knows a head coach is just a small part. The most brilliant X and O coach would be trash with the wrong organization
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:55 pm to Crewz
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The most brilliant X and O coach would be trash with the wrong organization
ie, ours
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:50 pm to Crewz
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The most brilliant X and O coach would be trash with Dell Demps deciding your player/personnel
Fify
Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:22 pm to htran90
Hire Jay Wright and draft Di Vincenzo
Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:38 pm to mackerel15
Wilbon just said he'd love to see Jay Wright in New Orleans. The buzz starting nationally now.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:42 pm to saintsfan22
quote:Did he say why?
Wilbon just said he'd love to see Jay Wright in New Orleans. The buzz starting nationally now.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:44 pm to PrimeTime Money
Hands off. We have dibs.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:48 pm to NOSHAU
He posts here, obviously
Posted on 4/3/18 at 5:20 pm to Cap Crunch
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He posts here, obviously
Considering it hasn't been talked about anywhere except this board, this notion is now confirmed.
What's going on Wilbon?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:06 pm to Crewz
This quite possibly may be the dumbest post i've read on the pels board. I pray you were trolling. I hate pop as much as the next guy, but to give him 2%credit for his x's and o's and rotations are just asinine.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:39 pm to tiger_nurse
Ask him if that's a huge part of his job and watch him laugh in your face.
You must be young.
You must be young.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:42 am to Crewz
I agree with you in general that there’s maybe only a handful of coaches who can be real difference makers, but there’s definitely some losers too. Especially in Xs and Os.
Just my experience as a Blazers’ fan seeing Stotts vs McMillan. One offense is a slow, grind out iso heavy offense (when you got Brandon Roy why not?) and the other is this free flowing weaving offense Stotts runs now. Stotts lost 4/5 of his starting lineup and still found a way to make castoffs such as Aminu, Harkless, and Napier work and also effectively utilizing guys such as Plumlee, Crabbe, and now Pat Connoughton who are very limited in what they can do. Plumlee was a difference maker in Portland’s series win vs LAC a few years ago. He averaged 4.8 assist in that post season while also averaging 4 assist before being shipped to DEN for Nurkic + 1st. He’s now at 2apg.
TLDR: coaches who are superb game planners and execute their sets get more out of their teams.
Just my experience as a Blazers’ fan seeing Stotts vs McMillan. One offense is a slow, grind out iso heavy offense (when you got Brandon Roy why not?) and the other is this free flowing weaving offense Stotts runs now. Stotts lost 4/5 of his starting lineup and still found a way to make castoffs such as Aminu, Harkless, and Napier work and also effectively utilizing guys such as Plumlee, Crabbe, and now Pat Connoughton who are very limited in what they can do. Plumlee was a difference maker in Portland’s series win vs LAC a few years ago. He averaged 4.8 assist in that post season while also averaging 4 assist before being shipped to DEN for Nurkic + 1st. He’s now at 2apg.
TLDR: coaches who are superb game planners and execute their sets get more out of their teams.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 12:45 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 7:42 am to tiger_nurse
quote:To be fair, I’ve heard Popovich say X’s and O’s aren’t that important because all coaches know X’s and O’s. His thing is about building a culture. So crewz isn’t wrong there. Having said that, I think he was downplaying X’s and O’s too much and was speaking a bit hyperbolically.
This quite possibly may be the dumbest post i've read on the pels board. I pray you were trolling. I hate pop as much as the next guy, but to give him 2%credit for his x's and o's and rotations are just asinine.
However, I would give Jay Wright a chance to build a culture in New Orleans.
And they need a new GM because Demps is arse.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 7:45 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 9:32 am to PrimeTime Money
So... Popovich said it, but it still might not be true?
What the average fan thinks coaches do is not a fraction of what matters. Talk to one someday. I have been lucky enough to talk to dozens of college and NBA coaches. I am not pulling this out of my butt.
I didn't believe it the first time I heard it either. But the 17th time... sure. Hopefully you guys get to hear it 16 more times
What the average fan thinks coaches do is not a fraction of what matters. Talk to one someday. I have been lucky enough to talk to dozens of college and NBA coaches. I am not pulling this out of my butt.
I didn't believe it the first time I heard it either. But the 17th time... sure. Hopefully you guys get to hear it 16 more times
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:23 am to Crewz
My point is the way he was saying it was to emphasize how important building a culture and attitude is, not that x’s and o’s aren’t important also.
All coaches “know” x’s and o’s but that doesn’t mean their teams play the best way to win. Lawyers might “know” the law but that doesn’t mean all lawyers are Johnnie Cochran.
Look at the Warriors. With Mark Jackson, they were a decent playoff team. Kerr gets the team, makes a few x and o changes, and the offense explodes to the next level with more or less the same personnel.
All coaches “know” x’s and o’s but that doesn’t mean their teams play the best way to win. Lawyers might “know” the law but that doesn’t mean all lawyers are Johnnie Cochran.
Look at the Warriors. With Mark Jackson, they were a decent playoff team. Kerr gets the team, makes a few x and o changes, and the offense explodes to the next level with more or less the same personnel.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 10:28 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:37 pm to theducks
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TLDR: coaches who are superb game planners and execute their sets get more out of their teams
yes. it does make a difference, but that difference is probably not as large as some think. talent still matters.
Brett Brown is a good example. did he just not know how to coach the previous 3 years? is he just a better coach this season? maybe a little, but not demonstrably so.
and organization matters too- it's no accident that Stotts can take some of the random guys Olshey finds and plug them into helpful roles. same thing with Stevens. having healthy communication and understanding between the coaching and the front office matters.
a Steve Kerr scenario- where a team literally takes off with a coaching change- is just incredibly rare. and even then, they needed a David Lee injury to get Draymond on the court
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:43 pm to Crewz
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Ask him if that's a huge part of his job and watch him laugh in your face.
You clearly know nothing about Pop. He never laughs at questions.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:45 pm to PrimeTime Money
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was speaking a bit hyperbolically.
We call that Mcnamarally around here.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:46 pm to Crewz
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I am not pulling this out of my butt.
The only thing you're currently able to pull out of your butt is your own head.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:05 pm to reo45
Success in college is nice, but. . . I don’t know about this.
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