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re: This Aminu kid is hard to watch

Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:13 pm to
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He shoots 39% so far in his career, which is really not that bad for a SF.



in what world is that considered "not that bad"?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:18 pm to
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in what world is that considered "not that bad"?


down in his second year to 37...

ju ju shot about 50% after his sophmore year
This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:21 pm to
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in what world is that considered "not that bad"?


Danny Granger (the guy a lot of Hornets fans obsess over) is shooting 38.5%.

Marshmelo ("elite scorer") is shooting 39.9%

Paul Pierce 41.3%

Take a look at the list:

FG% of qualified Forwards
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:24 pm to
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down in his second year to 37...


With a limited sample size, as well. Look, I'm not saying he's a great shooter, but his FT% (16th in the entire NBA) is a promising sign.
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:25 pm to
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I mean, it'd be nice to have Lebron, but not all players can absolutely dominate the league after their rookie year.


Who is expecting him to be Lebron? He is a super athletic for a 3 problem is that he has really only played the 4. He just really lacks in general basketball awareness like I stated earlier.

Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:26 pm to
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I'd say Ariza is Aminu's best case scenario.



I'm not sure he'll ever be the defender Ariza is, but he can be a much better offensive player. Look at most of the complaints about him. Lost or lacking confidence. Those are very fixable with enough work and getting comfortable with the system. He definitely deserves another year of development before passing judgement on him.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:27 pm to
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He just really lacks in general basketball awareness like I stated earlier.


I agree with this, but that is where being a 21 year old sophomore comes into play. Hopefully he can be coached up, but there are promising signs in his game. Whether he lives up to them or not is yet to be told.

Everyone can stop with the Juju bullshite, though.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:28 pm to
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I'm not sure he'll ever be the defender Ariza is, but he can be a much better offensive player. Look at most of the complaints about him. Lost or lacking confidence. Those are very fixable with enough work and getting comfortable with the system. He definitely deserves another year of development before passing judgement on him.



Nope, he's a terrible shooter. I mean, he ONLY shoots 86% from the stripe.
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:29 pm to
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I agree with this, but that is where being a 21 year old sophomore comes into play.


I hope so but that is a big transition from an inside player to a wing. His ball handling is my biggest concern.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:38 pm to
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I mean, he ONLY shoots 86% from the stripe.


limited sample though.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:41 pm to
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Danny Granger (the guy a lot of Hornets fans obsess over) is shooting 38.5%.

Marshmelo ("elite scorer") is shooting 39.9%

Paul Pierce 41.3%



you are reaching.

first of all, these numbers are all below their career average

2nd of all, they are high volume shooters. talking 15-20 Field goal attempts per game. Not 4 or 5 per game.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:23 pm to
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you are reaching.


Not really

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first of all, these numbers are all below their career average


So is Aminu this year.

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2nd of all, they are high volume shooters. talking 15-20 Field goal attempts per game. Not 4 or 5 per game.


Okay, that just means that their % is a lot more accurate given the ample sample size.

I'm not trying to build him up as some efficient scoring machine, but to say he's a "bad shooter" is silly as illustrated by his 80% at the line.

He definitely needs some improvement, but people are calling him fricking Juju. That's dumb. Really dumb.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:26 pm to
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limited sample though


How about 77.3% during his rookie year?

Now, I'll turn your own argument on you to illustrate the faultiness:

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37%


Limited sample, though.

This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:30 pm to
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Limited sample, though.


You guys played the card first, i through it back at his FT%.

Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:34 pm to
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You guys played the card first, i through it back at his FT%.


Okay, so we both agree that there is a limited sample size that makes it hard to evaluate a player who hasn't even been in the league for a full 2 years?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:36 pm to
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Jester


watching aminu play right now is painful to watch. Its not fun to watch like a majority of our roster right now.


I don't think he'll develop worth a frick but that's my 2 cents i don't really need to defend.

Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:37 pm to
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that's my 2 cents i don't really need to defend.


You certainly don't have to. Nobody is forcing you discuss it.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:43 pm to
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You certainly don't have to. Nobody is forcing you discuss it.



throwing stats and this and that hasn't solved any riddles thus far. I don't see him getting better or gaining confidence. I see playing time giving a lot of these guys a chance to get better, not seeing with aminu.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 5:37 pm to
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I don't see him getting better or gaining confidence. I see playing time giving a lot of these guys a chance to get better, not seeing with aminu.


That is your opinion, and it is one that several people clearly disagree with.
Posted by corndeaux
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 6:55 pm to
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I see playing time giving a lot of these guys a chance to get better, not seeing with aminu.


Give Monty some time. He helped turn Batum from raw wing into a solid starter. Jury is still out on Aminu
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