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re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:23 pm to Pels_Yaz
Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:23 pm to Pels_Yaz
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So if we lose getting Trae because we wanted to hold onto Dyson- you’re ok with that? If thats the case what exactly do you think Dyson will become in the next 2 or 3 years (might have mentioned this before so apologies if you did) ?
Honestly, It would be 50/50 for me depending on what other trades are out there. I thinks its ideal to have Trey with one of Herb or DD at all times on the court. I’m higher on DD than most here. And I don’t want to throw away two years of developing him when I think he really starts to shine in the next couple years. Plus he also pairs with Trae well in that he’s pretty passive on offense, and great on defense, exact opposite of Trae.
I think Atlanta would value Hawkins more and I’d hate to give him away because I like him coming off the bench to being CJs replacement but I would include him.
This post was edited on 6/1/24 at 2:26 pm
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:28 pm to Townedrunkard
I think if Atlanta moves Trae, they'd value high level volume shooting gravity over a guy like Herb. Their biggest issue is spacing and they have enough low volume shooters who no one respects.
Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:29 pm to Townedrunkard
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Honestly, It would be 50/50 for me depending on what other trades are out there. I thinks its ideal to have Trey with one of Herb or DD at all times on the court. I’m higher on DD than most here. And I don’t want to throw away two years of developing him when I think he really starts to shine in the next couple years. Plus he pairs with Trey well in that he’s pretty hesitant on offense, exact opposite of Trey. I think Atlanta would value Hawkins more and I’d hate to give him away because I like him coming off the bench to bring CJs replacement but I would include him.
Thats fair.
The thing is Im not sure how much this organization values Dyson. Griffin mentioned Hawkins as a young piece they’re excited about but failed to say anything about Dyson. When we hear trade rumors all we hear is Dyson; I never hear Hawkins name in any rumors. I’m ok trading either to get Trae but it seems like the organization would prefer to put Dyson in the trade (no source just reading through end of season presser and rumors).
Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:32 pm to supe12sta12z
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I think if Atlanta moves Trae, they'd value high level volume shooting gravity over a guy like Herb.
I don’t know what they value honestly but its silly to move off Trae if that becomes a concern. I get what you’re saying Hawkins can help if Trae is gone but if Im Hawks wouldn’t be smarter to keep Trae and move off Dejounte?
Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:35 pm to supe12sta12z
Agreed. It’s why I think Hawkins would be the one to go.
Who says no to a Trey/Capela for BI/CJ swap as the main pieces? I’m sure we’d have to include some firsts.
Murray CJ BI could win some games for them and they’ll have the number one pick.
Who says no to a Trey/Capela for BI/CJ swap as the main pieces? I’m sure we’d have to include some firsts.
Murray CJ BI could win some games for them and they’ll have the number one pick.
Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:40 pm to Townedrunkard
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Who says no to a Trey/Capela for BI/CJ swap as the main pieces? I’m sure we’d have to include some firsts.
We’re losing a LOT of scoring there. I mean almost 40 points plus. You think those two will make up for that?
I think Capela can help us but hes on expiring and age wise is just a year younger than Larry. Not sure how much he has left.
Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:43 pm to Townedrunkard
Does anyone really have a sense of what the Hawks want to do or what their goal is for this offseason? Does anyone visit their boards or get any info from inside sources?
I see people tearing their team apart and piecing it out. But I don't get the sense they want to go full rebuild, even with that weak 1st overall pick. From what I hear around town, they want to add a star with Young (while keeping Johnson and Okongwu). They have a lot of attractive assets. I don't think they want Ingram though. They want someone more transcendent, especially for a max deal..
I see people tearing their team apart and piecing it out. But I don't get the sense they want to go full rebuild, even with that weak 1st overall pick. From what I hear around town, they want to add a star with Young (while keeping Johnson and Okongwu). They have a lot of attractive assets. I don't think they want Ingram though. They want someone more transcendent, especially for a max deal..
Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:46 pm to brmark70816
There has been conflicting reports so far, some reports are saying they are going to rebuild, other sources say they are open to trading the #1 pick for a star to pair with Trae, and other reports are saying they’re excited about pairing Sarr with Trae
Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:47 pm to Townedrunkard
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s no to a Trey/Capela for BI/CJ swap as the main pieces?
Atlanta as well as Griff, we would have to use CJ to go get young pieces they would want.
I don’t see Griff trading BI and CJ in the same offseason though
Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:53 pm to brmark70816
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From what I hear around town, they want to add a star with Young (while keeping Johnson and Okongwu). They have a lot of attractive assets. I don't think they want Ingram though. They want someone more transcendent, especially for a max deal..
I think when they got the number one pick it kind of threw a lot of their plans into a bit of chaos. I heard that Trae wants to compete now and wouldn’t be interested in Hawks trying to develop a guy. I think if they keep the pick- could be a big possibility that they move off Trae and/or Dejounte and rebuild.
Posted on 6/1/24 at 2:53 pm to Pels_Yaz
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We’re losing a LOT of scoring there. I mean almost 40 points plus. You think those two will make up for that?
You banking on Trey and Hawkins to step up and help fill the void.
Capela is nothing more than just a short term solution as a center for a year.
This post was edited on 6/1/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 6/1/24 at 3:01 pm to Townedrunkard
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Capela is nothing more than just a short term solution as a center for a year.
Yeah we need to find a long term solution this offseason. Why I’m kind of against taking Capella.
Posted on 6/1/24 at 3:16 pm to brmark70816
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They have a lot of attractive assets. I don't think they want Ingram though. They want someone more transcendent, especially for a max deal..
Good luck with that. Murray and the number one pick isn’t going to pull anyone like that. And SA owns alot of their future picks.
They are going to have to settle for a BI/Murray type tier player.
Posted on 6/1/24 at 6:03 pm to Townedrunkard
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Good luck with that. Murray and the number one pick isn’t going to pull anyone like that. And SA owns alot of their future picks.
They have a loaded roster, mainly of pieces that don't fit together. But separately, they have a ton of value. Capela, Murray, Bogdanovic, Hunter and Bey are all starter level players, with the last two having some upside potential. Then young players like Griffin and Bufkin as add-ons. You are right about the future picks. But they can trade #1 and a couple of future 1sts that they can trade.
If a team, like the Clippers, wanted to blow it up and put George up for a trade, the Hawks could build a damn good package with the salaries to match. I believe that is the kind of player they are going to target..
Posted on 6/1/24 at 6:35 pm to brmark70816
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Capela, Murray, Bogdanovic, Hunter and Bey are all starter level players, with the last two having some upside potential
Capela has maybe neutral value at best, Bogd I’d say is a plus asset, they couldn’t get any good offers last year for Murray, Hunter is ok but hurt often and on a bad contract, and Bey is coming off a major injury and I thought is a free agent?
Unless a team really values the number one pick, nothing in that group is landing any major star….
Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:15 pm to Townedrunkard
MM on twitter says Atlanta is internally discussing trading Murray, Hunter and the #1 pick for Ingram and Herb. If offered we better take that shite and run
Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:34 pm to Soggymoss
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MM on twitter says Atlanta is internally discussing trading Murray, Hunter and the #1 pick for Ingram and Herb. If offered we better take that shite and run
I do not follow college or euro basketball, who would you take at #1? Or would you trade it?
Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:36 pm to Split2874
Immediately trade it.
Call up Houston and offer to help facilitate a deal for Bridges using that pick in exchange for either Smith or Green and the 3rd pick
Or i call San Antonio and offer it for Collins, 4 and 8
My main target in the draft is Reed Sheppard, he would be a nearly perfect fit alongside Zion
Call up Houston and offer to help facilitate a deal for Bridges using that pick in exchange for either Smith or Green and the 3rd pick
Or i call San Antonio and offer it for Collins, 4 and 8
My main target in the draft is Reed Sheppard, he would be a nearly perfect fit alongside Zion
Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:52 pm to Soggymoss
I'm not sure how much value this year's No. 1 pick has. I keep hearing No. 1 this year is like No. 8 most years.
I'm not trading Herb for No. 8.
I'm not trading Herb for No. 8.
Posted on 6/2/24 at 8:02 pm to ghost2most
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I'm not trading Herb for No. 8
Y'all way overvalue Herb man.
Good player, but not untouchable like y’all think he is.
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