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re: The Jose conundrum
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:01 am to 504Voodoo
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:01 am to 504Voodoo
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He is getting enough playing time now that teams are starting to scout him. He is no longer catching teams off guard and teams are playing to his tendencies. He is still a young NBA player. So the next part of his development is figuring out counters to what teams are doing to him. Something else I've noticed is that while he is a pesky defender, teams are really starting to attack him on defense; especially in the pick & roll. They are putting him in p&r situations with average to terrible big defenders in Zion and Jonas. We are switching those matchups and are faced with Zion or Jonas having to defend on the perimeter or Jose on a much bigger player.
I think this is the answer. He’s getting game planned, which is amazing considering his pedigree and role. Whether he turns into the Puerto Rican Tony Parker or JJ Barea 2.0 depends on his ability to adjust his style and pattern, his desire to continue adding to his game, and honestly his raw talent — shooting 40% for 3 or having Parkers touch around the rim doesn’t happen just because you work hard. Small chance he turns into PRTP but he could (should) be better than JJB, a dude who was an instrumental part of a Dallas championship.
Either way, the fact that Jose represents just one more thing opponents need to worry about playing the Pels is crazy. We’re playing with a pile of house money here.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 11:03 am
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:13 am to England_Pelican
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Who should be taking more 3’s than him? I’m taking BI out as he’s missed half the season.
You’re missing the point. I’m just asking for the guy shooting 23% from three in 26 out of 32 games to stop shooting them in high volume
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He wins us games
He’s played well in a few games. Come back down to earth bubba and live in reality
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:16 am to GynoSandberg
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You’re missing the point. I’m just asking for the guy shooting 23% from three in 26 out of 32 games to stop shooting them in high volume
He went 1 for like, 8 or something, in the last game. They were open...good shots...not forced. He has to make at least 3 of these. If not, they won't bother running him off the line.
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He’s played well in a few games. Come back down to earth bubba and live in reality
I do think his injury has contributed to his drop off, but he is still a good bench player.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:49 am to GynoSandberg
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You’re missing the point. I’m just asking for the guy shooting 23% from three in 26 out of 32 games to stop shooting them in high volume
He’s played well in a few games. Come back down to earth bubba and live in reality
If the only thing you take into consideration is 3pt shooting percentage like you're doing, sure. You're counting games where he 0-1 from 3 as a "bad game" just because he shot 0%. That one shot does not make a bad game doofus.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:03 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Brother, you aren’t following along. I was specially talking about his 3P shooting but I never once said that was the metric in deciding if he had a good game or not.
He’s not a good shooter. He’s a positive rotational player who does things well. What exactly are you taking issue with?
He’s not a good shooter. He’s a positive rotational player who does things well. What exactly are you taking issue with?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 12:30 pm to GynoSandberg
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I was specially talking about his 3P shooting but I never once said that was the metric in deciding if he had a good game or not.
What exactly are you taking issue with?
You say he's only played good in a few games and mention that he's only shot the three well in 6 of the 32 games he's played. I mean what else are you taking into consideration other than the three point shot? Nothing. If you were trying to say he's only shot the three well in 6 games then it'd be different (even though I'd argue that nights where anybody only shoot one shouldn't be considered), but you're acting like he's only had a few good games overall. Which simply isn't true.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:04 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:I don't know if it's just a random coincidence, but he's been on our team for 2 seasons, and both seasons he led the team in On/Off.
He’s played well in a few games. Come back down to earth bubba and live in reality
This next take isn't a take to overanalyze, just more so a statement of fact...for 2 seasons now, we play our best ball when Jose is on the court.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:12 pm to shel311
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This next take isn't a take to overanalyze, just more so a statement of fact...for 2 seasons now, we play our best ball when Jose is on the court.
He is our opposing team bench killer. He normally plays late 1st/early second and late/third early 4th gets around 20m and kills it. That is his sweet spot.
Jose started last game and had a zero +/-. I haven’t looked but I’d bet that the other games he has started, his +/- is not as good as when he comes off the bench.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:12 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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You say he's only played good in a few games
No. I was responding to this
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He wins us games
I responded he’s played well in a few games, meaning you could credit him with playing a big part in “winning” us a game. DEN, PHO, OKC come to mind. He still hasn’t been a good 3P shooter, he still does things well, he’s still a positive rotation piece
You are reacting to your own assumptions
Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:02 pm to shel311
I much rather guys who plays with a purpose on the court than an apprehensive guy who doesn't have a deliberate attacking mentality. Guys like Jose and Naji has brought so much to this team because they not afraid to dictate pace and force.
Percentages isn't everything and we focus too much on it especially when it comes to our reserves. They bring a lot of things to the floor when they play and if they're making the right read and taking open looks, I can't complain. They're reserves for a reason.
We're seen too many seasons where guys are afraid to be the one who takes the shot it made me sick to my stomach. When guys refuses to take an open shot, you're basically ball stopping and it almost always leads to a bad shot.
Percentages isn't everything and we focus too much on it especially when it comes to our reserves. They bring a lot of things to the floor when they play and if they're making the right read and taking open looks, I can't complain. They're reserves for a reason.
We're seen too many seasons where guys are afraid to be the one who takes the shot it made me sick to my stomach. When guys refuses to take an open shot, you're basically ball stopping and it almost always leads to a bad shot.
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