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re: The Blazers are not expected to keep Jrue Holiday and are looking to trade him immediately

Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
968 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:22 pm to
Holiday's contract is shorter which is the reason I would made the trade in a New York second. Actually I would rather trade CJ for Harden to gain salary cap flexibility. Harden would probably take a buyout not to play in NOLA.
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1864 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:46 pm to
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CJ gives us elite shooting


No he doesn't. Over the last two seasons, Holiday has a better FG% and 3pt%. And no one is claiming Holiday is an elite shooter.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40825 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:24 pm to
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We only got the largest trade return of all time at the time on our last mega deal.


I think was the Jazz got for Gobert might get that claim. At least in recent memory. 8,000 first round picks for Gobert was quite a haul.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8021 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:58 pm to
Love to have him back cuz he’s a great person but he’s 33 and makes way too much money for us.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103154 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:28 pm to
I look at it as both teams taking a stab in the dark for relevance.

Milwaukee needed to shake things up or Giannis walks. Portland wasn’t keeping Dame but needed a player who fit their team better than Herro.

The plan may not be to keep Jrue but having him as the defensive stopper next to Sharpe or Scoot and being a veteran leader beats the frick out of getting some guys who are defensive turnstiles for your marquee player.


And if Dame whines about not being in Miami, I’m sure Giannis has no compunctions about smacking a bitch.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
2290 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:41 pm to
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The plan may not be to keep Jrue but having him as the defensive stopper next to Sharpe or Scoot and being a veteran leader beats the frick out of getting some guys who are defensive turnstiles for your marquee player.


I just can't see Blazers keeping Jrue especially since they now have Thybulle, who I expect to make a bit of a leap this year on the offensive end to go along with his excellent defense. I'd actually like to see Thybulle on the Pels...as strange as that might sound...to many here.


Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29818 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:21 am to
I think you’ll see the Clippers or Warriors make a push to get Jrue. Lakers would but they can’t trade enough salary to make it happen until December when they can trade recently signed players.
And I’m sure Jrue wants to be in LA.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103154 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:25 am to
Warriors have the salary to get Jrue if they send out CP3, but that still begs the question of what Portland gets out of it because CP3 is a worse fit for them than Jrue.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67567 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:30 am to
One day. Herb may be Jrue, but not today, imo.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15900 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:02 am to
I'll never get used to NBA trades, particularly these 3-team trades that always turn into a total of 4 & 5 teams getting involved, after the initial 3-way is done. And a lot of times, traded-for players are outright cut, or cash buyouts/considerations are involved.

It's so foreign to me, after watching NFL trades for almost 50 years.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4356 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:15 am to
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One day. Herb may be Jrue, but not today, imo.


defensively maybe but herb wont ever have the ball handling or passing that jrue has
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29818 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:15 am to
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Warriors have the salary to get Jrue if they send out CP3, but that still begs the question of what Portland gets out of it because CP3 is a worse fit for them than Jrue.



I doubt Portland is that interested in getting someone they actually want to play for them in the return. They want picks.

Warriors can only trade 26 and 28 firsts.
Clippers can only trade 28 and 30 firsts.
Miami can trade 27 and 29 firsts, and has a nice expiring in Lowry to help match salaries.
Lakers can only trade 29 first.
Philly can only trade 29 first.
Dallas can only trade 26 and 28 firsts.
Knicks have all of their 1sts and more.

Boston has all of their 1sts, plus the Warriors 24 1st.
They should without a doubt send Brogdon and Horford out to get back Jrue.
a lineup with Jrue/Brown/Tatum/Williams with Porzingis and White should win the title if they are healthy in the playoffs.

I'd say the only real contenders here are Boston, Dallas and Miami, and Boston can beat any trade anyone else can put out there while still keeping their team mostly in tack.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103154 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:32 am to
Jrue WOULD be a good replacement for Smart, who got shipped out to Memphis…
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13491 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:42 am to
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I'd say the only real contenders here are Boston, Dallas and Miami, and Boston can beat any trade anyone else can put out there while still keeping their team mostly in tack.
Don't want to see him in Dallas. Boston makes a ton of sense.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67567 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:18 pm to
Jrue is a fine player and a good man.
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