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re: the 2020 fake trade thread

Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:16 am to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:16 am to
I like that idea. You think that's enough for Winslow?

If the Lakers want Moore, then i'm fine sending him there. I just don't want Kuzma back.

Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:18 am to
I think getting them out the tax along with a young guy like Kuz would be enough for them
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:24 am to
Miami needs to get out of the tax, and they can easily do it. That's why i keep looking at them to make a trade with.

Last year they just let McGruder go for nothing instead of making a trade, knowing someone would claim him, just to avoid the tax.
It'll be a lot more difficult this year since they are around $4M over the tax.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:29 am to
Yeah, that deal there would save them about 6 million, and they have a cost controlled Kuzma at 2-3 mil for next season also
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:51 am to
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Yeah, that deal there would save them about 6 million, and they have a cost controlled Kuzma at 2-3 mil for next season also


Why would Lakers prefer Moore over just taking Winslow themselves? Personally, I do not see the Heat parting with Winslow just to get out of the tax. They have a couple of expirings they could use for that if needed.
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:51 am to
Sixers interested in Moore?

4 mins ago – via Kevin O'Connor @ The Ringer
General manager Elton Brand’s first stab at a fix has been scoping the market for more shooters. Embiid is an average shooter and Simmons is a nonshooter. The team’s offense excels with just one of them but gets clunky with them both, so finding players who can space the floor is critical. The Sixers have expressed interest in a long list of wings, including Malik Beasley (Nuggets), Glenn Robinson III (Warriors), Davis Bertans (Wizards), E’Twaun Moore (Pelicans), and Andre Iguodala (Grizzlies), according to multiple league sources.


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Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:52 am to
They need shooters

Winslow isn't a shooter

Plus they're not trading him just together out the tax, they're getting a cost controlled young player and not having to give up anything else..

The only other player they would move would be Meyers Leonard, but they would likely have to attach a draft pick that they dont have
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 11:01 am
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:01 am to
quote:

They need shooters

Winslow isn't a shooter

Winslow is not a bad shooter and is a very good defender. He has much more upside than Moore and is on a controlled contract for longer. I do not see the Heat giving him up for so little, but would not be convince the Lakers would snatch him over Moore if the Heat were willing to deal him (unless we sweetened the pot).
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Sixers interested in Moore?


The problem is salary matching unless they are willing to part with Richardson.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 11:08 am
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:09 am to
33% from 3 for his career, 22% from 3 this season.. Hes not the type of shooter they need.

Also, for them to have enough salary for him, they would have to send KCP (no trade clause) or Danny Green out instead of Bradley, which would keep Miami in the tax
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:17 am to
Winslow is around 38% from 3 the last 2 seasons and is a very good defender. They could add Cook or Cousins' contract to the trade with Bradley to make the deal if needed (either could be waived). Regardless, the Heat have easier ways to get under the tax than giving up a 23 year old starting caliber player.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11923 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:18 am to
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The problem is salary matching unless they are willing to part with Richardson.
They wouldn't. It would probably be something that includes Scott and maybe Smith and a 2nd (as they have many 2nds). Unless the Pels were enamoured with Smith, I would not bother.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:23 am to
quote:

The Sixers have expressed interest in a long list of wings, including Malik Beasley (Nuggets), Glenn Robinson III (Warriors), Davis Bertans (Wizards), E’Twaun Moore (Pelicans), and Andre Iguodala (Grizzlies), according to multiple league sources.




Who do they give up?
Draft pick too!

Warriors will give them their 2020 #1 and robinson3 for simmons today and a 2nd in 2022.
Theyd make the playoffs.
Curry will be back similar time frame zion.

Memphis would do it for a low 20s first but iggy makes 17 million so at least one guy comes back.
They get one more solid piece who can play front line defense they can compete v jazz and spurs for door #8. When valancunius was out to start season they were 1-7.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 11:32 am
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9947 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:31 am to
quote:

hey wouldn't. It would probably be something that includes Scott and maybe Smith and a 2nd (as they have many 2nds). Unless the Pels were enamoured with Smith, I would not bother.



Smith sucks and Scott has another year @ $5M. Plus we would have to cut someone. 2nds don’t make the value match.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:35 am to
When Winslow is healthy, he's been a very good 3 point shooter, nearing 40%.
He's had injuries that have clearly affected his shooting.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:51 am to
quote:

When Winslow is healthy, he's been a very good 3 point shooter, nearing 40%.
He's had injuries that have clearly affected his shooting.

thats true, add in his defense and he's a valuable player.
but he's blossomed as MIA's lead ballhandler...how would that work here?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25633 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:59 am to
quote:

but he's blossomed as MIA's lead ballhandler...how would that work here?



Well.......there's this other ball handler we have on our team that maybe we could trade, probably to someone other than Miami.

I for one would like the idea of a starting lineup of Jrue/Ingram/Winslow/Zion with Favors/Hayes for the future.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38829 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:10 pm to
off topic, cavs are about to fire their coach
quote:

Cavaliers GM Koby Altman traveled to Detroit and met with Beilein and players. Altman talked individually with players to get a sense of how they viewed verbiage in yesterday’s film session and how accepting they were of today’s apology, per sources.

he called them "thugs", then said he meant to say "slugs"
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14351 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:12 pm to
3 weeks ago I was all in on this..

Now I just want a 3/4 guy that we can bring off the bench.

Covington/Winslow/Ariza
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9947 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

off topic, cavs are about to fire their coach


They signed him for like 5 years and gave him a lot of $$$. I doubt he gets fired.
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