re: Steven Adams to Pelicans in Serious Talks

He’s making $13.6M per year for 3. Which is about the going rate for his skillset

Still slots behind the likes of Jerami Grant, Marcus Morris, Bertans, Gallinari in the contracts doled out to “stretch bigs”

That’s nice scratch for a guy of his pedigree

Misunderstood when it said $14 mil for 3.

Still not exactly the big money prized free agent type deal, but frames it better than I thought.

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Let me know when the Pacers part with Turner for trash.

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yeah his comments in that post are dishonest

EVERYONE would rather have received Turner instead of Adams

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oh man you are building a HUGE hill here. it's funny how you won't say "Christian Wood is good on defense" and are playing the "he can develop" card to avoid the primary issue. you can never truly lose an argument if you don't actually say anything

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Seriously, I am really worried about some of you producing offspring, this country is dumb enough as it is.

Woods is not a positive defender right now IMO. But he is trending in the right direction, including being a solid rim protector. Him and Zion would play just fine together. Defense was already a work in progress for this team and nothing would change, but spacing and floor balance would be much improved with both having high defensive potential going forward.

He is also a 14 million a year player compared to 27 million for Adams, and he is on our timeline, this conversation got stuck on this when I said you could essentially have had an off-season where instead of chasing Adams for a first and a solid role player, had we not fricked up last season you could have signed Wood AND a defensive center like Favors/Baynes etc. and still had money left over.

That I would absolutely prefer it.

Then here you come sounding like a retard off his meds talking god knows what convoluted galaxy brain nonsense

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Him and Zion would play just fine together.

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on offense

it would take a miracle for that duo to work defensively. now, don't think of me saying this is just a Wood issue. Zion is a big part of that. but we are building around Zion, which i hope we all agree with

the "defense" argument is a major prayer. yes it's possible they would develop defensively but we have no real data to justify that and a lot to worry us about the combo

this argument is a hail mary

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but spacing and floor balance would be much improved with both having high defensive potential going forward.

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our offense was fine with Zion and Favors last year

Adams is a better offensive player. why are you worried about offense with Adams/Zion given what we've already seen?

you have lost this portion of your argument

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He is also a 14 million a year player compared to 27 million for Adams,

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Adams' 27M cap hit is irrelevant and can be better for us (allows us to potentially acquire a guy like Beal when 14M wouldn't do it)

Adams' potential cap loss after this year is MUCH better for us

you have lost this portion of your argument

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and he is on our timeline

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you think we could afford Wood's re-up in 3 years with our cap situation at that point of our timeline?

bad point.

you have lost this portion of your argument

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had we not fricked up last season you could have signed Wood AND a defensive center like Favors/Baynes etc. and still had money left over.

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so you are now answering my "you want to pay $14M/year for a backup big?" question as "yes"

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That I would absolutely prefer it.

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gross

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Then here you come sounding like a retard off his meds talking god knows what convoluted galaxy brain nonsense

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you mean using actual history and not hopes and prayers?

you do you

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Me in response to that specific quote

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you're lying. this is your WHOLE response

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You told me last year about my correct Christian Wood assessment basically the same thing. Trust Girff, buy in fully or get out were your paraphrased words.

So no offense, but since you led with an insult, maybe some of you lecturing about the Pels big men choices should humble yourselves a bit before throwing aspersions around.

Of course I would be more ok with a first and George Hill for a cost controlled, 10 million dollar cheaper, younger, stretch five that can protect the rim at an elite level and is still years from his peak and slots perfectly in our time schedule around Zion/Ingram. I’m not sure how that is even a question. Adams is a fine center, but I don’t think he is the answer, and will ultimately be somewhere else, or in a smaller role thats easily filled by vets when we are at our peak, so it’s not a move I would make.

Had my intuition been followed that people like you railed against me for last season, this off-season would be about giving Wood 14 million for three years or trading a first rounder and a valuable trade asset for an expiring 27 million dollar center that we may not be able to retain that is not a natural fit offensively with our team or on our likely time schedule.

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you act like we're idiots when you selectively leave out the bold part about Wood and then never reference Turner

i can selectively edit all of your responses to make you look worse than pj, if you'd like

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It’s really not that hard to simply read the threads of conversations before you inject yourself in with stupid hot takes that waste pages of people’s time having to correct avoidable ignorance.

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when you post like a manic teenager on tumblr, yes

when you post with an editor, you look a lot better

Why do you care about changing the opinions of faceless internet posters so much?

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you act like we're idiots when you selectively leave out the bold part about Wood and then never reference Turner

i can selectively edit all of your responses to make you look worse than pj, if you'd like

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Which was in response to his implication of people not seeing this trade as being myopic.

Again, reading comprehension, try it sometime, it can save you and others a lot of trouble.

But you were so quick thinking you had some gotcha moment you rushed to troll.

Next time just stop, reread, try again

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Again, reading comprehension, try it sometime, it can save you and others a lot of trouble.

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yes how could a post talking about wood in the first paragraph and wood in the second paragraph POSSIBLY lead to reading comprehension that the third paragraph (where no name was used) was also talking about Wood?

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But you were so quick thinking you had some gotcha moment you rushed to troll.

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actually no.

this was my immediate response to your confusing post:

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i need some data for this claim

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this was my response when you clarified your confusing post and said you were talking about turner:

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oh i thought you were talking about Christian Wood

i've been the biggest Myles Turner fan on this board, but it doesn't seem like Indy is willing to deal him here

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so, MR. "reading comprehension", please explain how those 2 responses are "some gotcha moment" that i "rushed to troll"