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re: Steven Adams to Pelicans in Serious Talks
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:29 am to Theblairs02
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:29 am to Theblairs02
quote:and the fact that it’ll free up a shite ton of cap space for a better FA class next season. Even if we re-sign Adams. His salary would be cut in half at most
People need to realize Adams is a expiring contract. That 27 million literally means nothing unless we re sign him at that much.
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Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:30 am to dj30
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Those stats are in favor of Favors if you're looking at the per 36 numb
Adams carries a 6.5 WS vs Favors’ 2.7 in that time period
Overall, Favors has a 53 WS for his career vs 45 for Adams, and Favors has played 3 more seasons
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:30 am to Bronc
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unable to wrap your head around the game of basketball enough to see how Jrue could fit next to defensively deficient point guards
You lack of reading comprehension regarding that subject is pretty poor
Still waiting for you to link the Oubre nugget that I said too
Giving up hard assets for a 31 yr Old Jrue and putting him next to a small guard works for a 45win Portland team & Damian lillard.
Not a 25 win team trying to build something
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:32 am to chRxis
We are gonna let Adams walk and make a run for Giannis.... it’s FLAPPENING!
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:34 am to cgrand
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Bledsoe and Adams will show this team how to win basketball games.
these two are a clear upgrade from holiday and favors and griff got paid to do it.
Again, I would love someone to prove this.
Jrue is a better player than Bledsoe(last two season):
Jrue: 20, 7, 5
Eric: 15.5, 5.5, 5
Relatively same percentages, usage, and turnovers.
and Favors has been almost statistically the same player as Adams, but actually a better defensive rim protector and slightly better rebounder.
Jrue >> Bledsoe
Adams > Favors.
Now, what I said last year and this goes for this year as well, our team is going to live and die by Zion/Ingram/Lonzo’s progression. And maybe Kira’s now(maybe not this season but going forward for sure)
If those three improve defensively, the team will take a leap, if they play as bad as they did last year, Adams ain’t gonna save you.
This post was edited on 11/21/20 at 10:35 am
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:36 am to Lester Earl
quote:Basically, all we can do is add one more high quality guy and the rest minimums. So it concerning if you expect to find 2 or 3 super cheap dudes that no one else wants who can also shoot. Odds aren't good.
They aren’t finished building the roster
Dudes talking about the starting lineup & having no shooters lol
Crowder probably the best guy left
This post was edited on 11/21/20 at 10:37 am
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:37 am to England_Pelican
To add to the 27 million contract of Adams. It’s also a good trade piece this year if some team want to offload their unhappy superstar.
Plus I rather have Pelican give up that to test out Adams on this squad and see how they gel than giving him a contract next year. If he is a perfect fit, great he’s worth the new contract. If he isnt, we can just let him go. We already got a bunch of draft capital. Draft capital that isn’t even ours but from other trades we made.
Favors got a 3 year contract. Will y’all be happy if we gave him that contract? I’m pretty sure no. We needed a center.
Plus I rather have Pelican give up that to test out Adams on this squad and see how they gel than giving him a contract next year. If he is a perfect fit, great he’s worth the new contract. If he isnt, we can just let him go. We already got a bunch of draft capital. Draft capital that isn’t even ours but from other trades we made.
Favors got a 3 year contract. Will y’all be happy if we gave him that contract? I’m pretty sure no. We needed a center.
This post was edited on 11/21/20 at 10:38 am
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:37 am to Bronc
Chris Paul had worse numbers than Jrue, you think he can't teach a team how to win better than Jrue?
Just that extra vocalness and fight Bledsoe and Adams brings over Jrue and Favors will do wonders for this team. Jrue is way to quiet to be a leader, even though he is a good player.
The best teams have alpha players, Jrue and Favors are not that, Adams and Bledsoe are
Just that extra vocalness and fight Bledsoe and Adams brings over Jrue and Favors will do wonders for this team. Jrue is way to quiet to be a leader, even though he is a good player.
The best teams have alpha players, Jrue and Favors are not that, Adams and Bledsoe are
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:44 am to Lester Earl
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You lack of reading comprehension regarding that subject is pretty poor
Nah I got it, you went on for pages incapable of wrapping your brain around how Jrue would be a better fit than Kelly fricking Oubre. Struggling to grasp that Jrue is an ideally off ball secondary creator that is best served focusing on defense and being your third option. Somehow you couldnt wrap your mind around how that would be a good fit in Atlanta if they were in a win now, playoffs this season mindset vs a guy that is at a major position overlap in Oubre.
Your a loud mouth that thinks snark and shite takes somehow adds yourself some credibility. It doesn’t. If you want to talk basketball talk, if you want to go the playground shite talking, try not to be a pathetic loser that has somehow amassed 40 posts a day over 17 years and still doesn’t grasp positional fit in basketball.
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:45 am to Townedrunkard
Bro anyone can blow up and become something. But there’s a reason Hampton fell to 24 in a bad draft. You can’t just sit on your hands now that you’ve found your potential stars. You don’t want to be put in the position where Zion feels like we not giving him a chance to succeed. Trae young came out and told the Hawks they need to get players around him. He’s going into his third year. You think the Hawks are ready to contend for a title with? Or the Suns with D Book and CP3? Hell no. But they’re moving in the right direction to get talent around their young players in attempt to make the playoffs. We have picks in that draft already. A mid 20s first round pick means nothing to David Griffin if the team sucks for 3 years and he’s fired. What are we waiting for??? Zion and BI don’t care about an extra first round pick, they wanna win games. Show them you can win games.
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:48 am to lovepurplelivegold14
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Royce Young @royceyoung · 1h
The Pelicans have been interested in Adams for a while. After OKC traded George and Westbrook last summer, the Pelicans tried to get Adams, but the deal didn’t come together.
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:50 am to TigerinATL
I like this deal a lot.
Adams checks a lot of boxes for us.
Adams checks a lot of boxes for us.
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:53 am to Bronc
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Mostly offering snarky dumb arse hot takes like being aggressively ignorant
Hello Mr. Pot.
I don’t agree with him all the time, but Earl is head and shoulders above you intellectually and as a poster.
You have a seriously overinflated opinion of yourself.
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:54 am to Soggymoss
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Just that extra vocalness and fight Bledsoe and Adams brings over Jrue and Favors will do wonders for this team. Jrue is way to quiet to be a leader, even though he is a good player.
Bledsoe is a notoriously quiet personality much like Jrue, so I’m not getting that take.
Adams certainly has potential in that respect, and I think in a vacuum he is an upgrade. I just don’t like the deal or the long term fit, and I don’t think whatever that leadership is is some unobtainable skill that can’t be found without on the FA market.
He’ll bring an attitude, and I do love that Adams is one of those few players refs somehow let get away with shite other big men can’t, but I’d rather save an asset like a 2023 to 2025 first rounder for a package or prospect that is a more ideal fit on our time schedule.
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:58 am to Fun Bunch
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Everyone bitching is going to love Adams like a motherfricker once the season starts.
I like Adams. He’s gone balls deep in us many a time and it will be nice to see him do the same to other teams. My point is simple. We gave up a piece that OKC will flip for a late first and we gave up a late first. In a vacuum that doesn’t sit well.
Does OKC balk if we don’t include the nuggets 1st? Probably not.
Posted on 11/21/20 at 10:59 am to purplepylon
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I honestly don't know why so many people are shitting on a deal where we lost a meaningless Denver 2023 first round pick. It's a nice Saturday morning mid 60's sunny breezy, go enjoy it.
No one shitting on this deal has explained the problem with the value we’ve given up in a meaningful way.
Strangely, the supporters of this trade have actually done a better job steel manning.
Posted on 11/21/20 at 11:00 am to cgrand
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Eric Bledsoe is a dick
Steven Adams is a dick
SVG is a dick
Corey Brewer is a dick
You talk about dick too much, old man.
Think we get a suite game this year? I rolled over my STs but my rep would set it up if it’s possible.
Posted on 11/21/20 at 11:01 am to duyp
Love this addition, always been a fan of Adams on the court
Posted on 11/21/20 at 11:01 am to touchdownjeebus
I would be down for another suite game. I had a great time last year!
Posted on 11/21/20 at 11:02 am to Bronc
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how that would be a good fit in Atlanta if they were in a win now, playoffs this season mindset vs a guy that is at a major position overlap in Oubre.
Position overlap, right.
Is that why their biggest offseason acquisition has been a 6’10” small forward & not another shrimp guard to play next to Young?
Care to explain that one to me?
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