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Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:01 pm to VOR
I think what Stern is saying is, "We're about to have a buyer for the Hornets, let's not get rid of his #1 asset right before the deal is done. After the deal is finalized, let him make the decision to trade his top player."
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:02 pm to kfizzle85
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kfizzle85
You will note that I said I pulled it out of may arse. Just a thought.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:03 pm to Iamnick
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I think what Stern is saying is, "We're about to have a buyer for the Hornets, let's not get rid of his #1 asset right before the deal is done. After the deal is finalized, let him make the decision to trade his top player."
But even the prospective owner has to realize with every passing hour the landscape of what trades we can make and what we can in turn flip those assets for is changing dramatically. I know owners are usually clueless, but this is pretty commonsense.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:05 pm to Puddinhead
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But even the prospective owner has to realize with every passing hour the landscape of what trades we can make and what we can in turn flip those assets for is changing dramatically
That would be true during a normal season and under a previous CBA.
It's FAR FAR worse this year, as all transactions are in a highly compressed timeframe and there's only a window of about three weeks to trade players with their Bird rights intact.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:16 pm to teke184
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The New Orleans Hornets and Houston Rockets appealed to the NBA office on Friday morning to try to convince David Stern to drop his veto of Chris Paul’s trade to the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
League officials in New York listened to pleas from several Hornets and Rockets officials, but eventually closed down communication.
LINK
Apparently, King Stern of Siam has spoken and will not be overruled.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:21 pm to teke184
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Apparently, King Stern of Siam has spoken and will not be overruled.
The disgruntled owners should realize that this trade will significantly help out one of their own -- a smaller market team threatened by contraction/relocation. I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want this trade to happen.
Its tough to watch this helpless situation.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:25 pm to LSUlunatic
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The disgruntled owners should realize that this trade will significantly help out one of their own -- a smaller market team threatened by contraction/relocation. I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want this trade to happen.
They don't care about that. They're thinking about a few other things instead.
1. The Lakers get a prime piece at a seeming discount, ignoring the fact that other teams were lowballing us because of CP3 undermining the trades
2. The Lakers will pay less in luxury tax, which affects their own bottom line
3. They think that their 1/29 share in the Hornets entitles them to block any transactions that don't benefit them.
Cuban's been ESPECIALLY bad about that one, with his bitching about the Carl Landry trade in February eventually costing us Brandon Rush due to the league requiring our front office to run requests involving trade exceptions through them.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:26 pm to LSUlunatic
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I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want this trade to happen.
They need the tax money and this deal saved them money. I guess Demps had plans for Okafor or he would have been included to get it done.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:28 pm to teke184
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1. The Lakers get a prime piece at a seeming discount, ignoring the fact that other teams were lowballing us because of CP3 undermining the trades
2. The Lakers will pay less in luxury tax, which affects their own bottom line
Doesn't LA's pending trade for Howard comprise the same conditions?
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:36 pm to TigerinATL
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That's some very good deductive reasoning, but if that were the case, it seems like something Stern should have told Demps.
This would be the third time something like this happened.
First, Demps was blindsided when he wasn't allowed to use the TPE from the Peja deal, despite having "more deals lined up".
Second, he was blindsided in the Brandon Rush deal.
And, now this. Either Demps is the unluckiest person in the world, or he doesn't pay much attention when his bosses speak.
Option 2 is much more likely.
This post was edited on 12/9/11 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:37 pm to LSUlunatic
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Doesn't LA's pending trade for Howard comprise the same conditions?
In the eyes of the rest of the league, no.
The deal, as I understand it, is Howard and Turkoglu's shitty contract for Pau and Bynum.
Orlando gets to keep two good big men while LA only saves $4 million.
They hated the Hornets trade because the Hornets got smaller pieces instead of a huge albatross of a contract like Bynum or Amare, as they're thinking in terms of star power rather than rebuilding the entire roster.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:39 pm to mhasen1
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Second, he was blindsided in the Brandon Rush deal.
And, now this. Either Demps is the unluckiest person in the world, or he doesn't pay much attention when his bosses speak.
Option 2 is much more likely.
IMHO, he was blindsided in the Rush deal because Mark Cuban bitched to the league about the Carl Landry deal.
After the Landry trade, the league made the Hornets run every deal involving a TPE through them, which ended up killing the OJ Mayo trade involving Rush entirely because, by the time the league got back to us, it was too late to submit it.
This post was edited on 12/9/11 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:43 pm to teke184
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"Lakers can't appeal to NBA office about Chris Paul trade block b/c the league considers the deal to have been nixed by N.O., not the NBA."
L O fricking L
yeah, the hornets nixed the trade..
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:46 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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Full statement:
Full statement:
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“Since the NBA purchased the New Orleans Hornets, final responsibility for significant management decisions lies with the commissioner's office in consultation with team chairman Jac Sperling. All decisions are made on the basis of what is in the best interests of the Hornets. In the case of the trade proposal that was made to the Hornets for Chris Paul, we decided, free from the influence of other NBA owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of the terms of that trade.”
This post was edited on 12/9/11 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:47 pm to droman225
ESPN's "Cap analyst" just said that it's no guarantee that CP3 leaves, and that he thinks the Hornets could make a deal for Howard using Okafor. 
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:49 pm to droman225
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we decided, free from the influence of other NBA owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of the terms of that trade.”
They expect people to buy that load of horseshite? REALLY?
Stern better be fixing the 2012 lottery to give Drummond to the Hornets over this.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:49 pm to THRILLHO
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ESPN's "Cap analyst" just said that it's no guarantee that CP3 leaves, and that he thinks the Hornets could make a deal for Howard using Okafor
yea that dude's a fricking idiot
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:50 pm to THRILLHO
quote:I heard that too.
ESPN's "Cap analyst" just said that it's no guarantee that CP3 leaves, and that he thinks the Hornets could make a deal for Howard using Okafor.
Paul's staying and Dwight might just come here.
G.T.F.O!
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:51 pm to THRILLHO
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ESPN's "Cap analyst" just said that it's no guarantee that CP3 leaves, and that he thinks the Hornets could make a deal for Howard using Okafor.
This statement was paid for by the David Stern fricking Foundation.
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