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re: Stein: Jrue is available via trade

Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:56 pm to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:56 pm to
Think Miami wants to keep Winslow to pair with Jrue. Wasn’t he playing the kind of point forward role on that team.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13476 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 11:06 pm to
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Think Miami wants to keep Winslow to pair with Jrue. Wasn’t he playing the kind of point forward role on that team.

Of course they would want to. However, they would have to give up something of value if they want Jrue and they are pretty much out of meaningful draft picks.
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
2268 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 11:14 pm to
I would like Olynyk or Meyers Leonard (a stretch 4 that can play), Duncan Robinson (a quality shooter), and a 1st round pick for Holiday.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112623 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:03 am to
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Jen Hale just interviewed David Griffin just before halftime and asked him straight up. He emphatically denied Jrue is on the block.
I listened to it finally and it was anything but emphatic.

He never once directly answered her very specific question, he just reiterated the story about buyers/sellers and a story would come out because they're losing. He sidestepped the question, basically exactly the opposite of emphatically denying as you stated.

She then asked it in a different way, and the most he said was that they were not actively looking to move Jrue. He had every opportunity to say Jrue is not on the block and will not be traded, he never said any of it. All that means is they're not actively looking to make a move but if someone comes with offers, he never said they wouldn't listen.

He chose his words carefully, never denied it.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17327 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:13 am to
They would WANT to, but they would have to give him up of they want Jrue
Posted by barbapapa
Member since Mar 2018
3799 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:19 am to
I think it's semantics, Jrue isn't on the block per se as if we are determined to move him and quickly, but he isn't an untouchable if a good offer comes through the door
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20669 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:33 am to
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I think it's semantics, Jrue isn't on the block per se as if we are determined to move him and quickly, but he isn't an untouchable if a good offer comes through the door


I think this is right. I think that Zion, Ingram, and Hayes are likely the only guys on the team that Griffin would hang up on an offer before listening. I think that everyone else is available, but I also don't think that Griffin is necessarily in a selling mood. That's what he was talking about with the "people have identified us as a seller" stuff. I think that Griffin is just as likely to be a buyer.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15676 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Jen: So you are not trying to trade Jrue Holiday?
“Grif: Clearly not, no.”


Interview

Hey he could be lying but that seems to me like he pretty much answered the question.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 10:03 am to
While I agree with you, notice the words:

"TRYING to trade Jrue?"

"Clearly not, no."

The initial report wasn't that they were trying to shop or trade Jrue, only that they were listening and would need to be blown away.

That could still be true. They are not trying to trade Jrue. They aren't shopping him.

But they ARE listening...could be the implication.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 10:29 am to
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If we’re going full rebuild, let’s do it right.

Get as many picks over the next 2-3 drafts as possible and let the chips fall where they may.



I don't think that is "the right way to rebuild" at all. that looks like the Phoenix Suns over the last few years


what we need is to spend our time & resources into our 4 young guys - BI, Zion, Hayes, & NAW. we don't have the resources to go get more picks than we currently have with the Lakers trade & develop them all. And if you try, you're at least taking resources away from BI & Zion.

We don't need a middle of the road player like Kelly Olynyk. That does nothing for us in the short or long term on the court, and doesn't help our young guys. We need players that know how to win in this league along w/maybe one "project." CP3 + Terrance Ferguson is one trade that comes to mind.

This post was edited on 12/19/19 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127810 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 10:32 am to
Honestly I would want future picks from anyone...like several years down the line.

That way we have a host of picks in our arsenal that, if Zion and BI turn into superstar type players, you can trade them for either another superstar or solid players to build with them.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 10:41 am to
and right as I say that, Fletch tweets out almost the exact same trade 5 minutes later






I don't want CP3 or Ferguson anymore
This post was edited on 12/19/19 at 10:55 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127810 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 10:45 am to
David Grubb posted a fletch-esque trade and one of other local media types replied "blink twice if Fletch is holding you hostage" or something to that effect. I laughed.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20669 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 10:55 am to
quote:

The initial report wasn't that they were trying to shop or trade Jrue, only that they were listening and would need to be blown away.

That could still be true. They are not trying to trade Jrue. They aren't shopping him.

But they ARE listening...could be the implication.


I think that this is right. Look, we aren't in any hurry. After this season, Jrue still has two years left on his contract. After a slow start to the season, he's been playing at a very high level.

Jrue will likely have just as much value if we wait until the offseason, when there's a poor free-agent class and teams will be eager to use trades to improve their teams. So, why rush?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112623 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:13 am to
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Hey he could be lying but that seems to me like he pretty much answered the question.
That's the semantica alluded to above. Not trying could be taken as they're not shopping him and proactively reaching out. It does not mean that they're not taking calls and listening.
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
965 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:57 am to
What's interesting to me is that Griff and Holiday met hours before Stein's tweet. However you view the semantics it is an oblivious change in Holidays trade availability status.

I believe he will be traded during the off season and before the draft. Given Jrue's salary it will difficult to trade him during this season.
This isn't his team and Jrue will welcome a change.






Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 2:44 pm to
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CP3 + Terrance Ferguson is one trade that comes to mind.



cp3
Once great. Dogged by leg issues.
O/u 50 games.
Costs a fortune.

No.

He gets you to the playoffs and then body shows age under duress of playoff.
Posted by Pelicansfan69
Member since Oct 2019
304 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:15 pm to
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Posted by Pelicansfan69 online on 12/17/19 at 4:16 pm to Jester This post has been bookmarked. Fred Van Vleet and Norman Powell for Jrue Holiday... Toronto is desperate for that extra star right now..


Wow the Pelicans have been reading my posts. Or I’m psychic.
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