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re: Some within org believe AD has played his last game as a Pelican
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:11 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:11 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:This post from you that you make very often gets old real quick when you spend multiple pages fighting with Chad about nothing but won't seem to stop that when asked.
No one cares. Just stop.
But I ain't mad!!
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:15 pm to Fun Bunch
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No one cares. Just stop.
Chill. Am I not allowed to have a conversation? I guess Crewz hasn’t told y’all it’s ok to have a conversation
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:16 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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As an example, For merely suggesting the possibility of selling high on Holiday, you’d think I’d plowed a few posters mom. Of course then in the national ether a discussion of trading Jrue came up...
Of course you got pushback. Until a trade happens Jrue is the most positive thing to cling to about the franchise. Most of us have already pencilled in Kenny Hustle as a starter next, but that too is likely an overreaction to everything else going to shite. People want to make Gentry POBO based on his press conferences. We don’t always get it right.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:17 pm to Upperdecker
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Chill. Am I not allowed to have a conversation? I guess Crewz hasn’t told y’all it’s ok to have a conversation
You're not having a conversation, you're being a dick and being annoying.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:18 pm to shel311
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The problem for me with this is that people do exactly this IMO
that is true. i wish more people read about the NBA more than just here. i get that many use it for their news. but greater depth of whats going on around the league makes much of the palace intrigue stuff routine/boring. like his Okafor post this summer. people legit fired up about signing him in the summer as a key cog. they still are (he has played well to his credit), but he's a non-factor and will always be (no hedge there)
obviously, the last few weeks have been unprecedented
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Then something happens and he says, "see, told ya." I don't care about that either, but I do recognize that has happened before.
right. the Crewz troll game is often turned up to 11. when he's in that mode, it's not worth paying attention to his posts at all.
when he's serious about info or talking the game, it's always interesting to read what he thinks and discuss with him
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:36 pm to Upperdecker
quote:But you are not having a "conversation." You are simply whining that someone else gets more attention than you do.
Chill. Am I not allowed to have a conversation? I guess Crewz hasn’t told y’all it’s ok to have a conversation
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:45 pm to TigerinATL
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Of course you got pushback. Until a trade happens Jrue is the most positive thing to cling to about the franchise. Most of us have already pencilled in Kenny Hustle as a starter next, but that too is likely an overreaction to everything else going to shite. People want to make Gentry POBO based on his press conferences. We don’t always get it right.
There’s a difference between clinging to and saying the idea of exploring trade ideas is ludicrous/would be a terrible move for the franchise. After a few NBA guys start discussing I just laughed, because it makes sense in a lot of ways.
I like Jrue and don’t necessarily want him gone, but it was like I was going after someone’s child.
2 years ago this board hated Jrue or at least complained about him a lot. Like I said, groupthink.
For the record, ATL, I don’t consider you part of that mindset.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:57 pm to NOSHAU
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But you are not having a "conversation." You are simply whining that someone else gets more attention than you do.
if that was actually true I wouldn’t be the only one saying this stuffPosted on 2/19/19 at 4:09 pm to Upperdecker
I stated this in the other thread about Gayle Benson...there is defense mechanism that is triggered is some posters brains about a region, players, or team. By proxy, MM is an extension of the FO in some people’s minds here. Even MM himself said it’s not one decision maker in the room, but a group of, so sometimes he hedges.
That’s okay, I don’t expect, nor depend on Crewz for everything. I enjoy some of his stuff, and not so much on others. Take it with a grain of salt like all NBA scuttlebutt is the best approach.
However, if he is challenged by you, shel, Lester, etc, there is a contingent that has said mechanism triggered. I suppose it’s natural.
I’m with you UD, if you think something is bs, refute the central point. This board need counterpoints in the worst way.
That’s okay, I don’t expect, nor depend on Crewz for everything. I enjoy some of his stuff, and not so much on others. Take it with a grain of salt like all NBA scuttlebutt is the best approach.
However, if he is challenged by you, shel, Lester, etc, there is a contingent that has said mechanism triggered. I suppose it’s natural.
I’m with you UD, if you think something is bs, refute the central point. This board need counterpoints in the worst way.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 4:09 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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For the record, ATL, I don’t consider you part of that mindset.
I try to figure out the why of people with dissenting views. I'm not saying this as some kind of nerdy hall monitor brag. I'm saying it as an example that all we need to do to make this board better is stop dismissing opinions we think are stupid or crazy and ask people why they have this stupid or crazy opinion in the first place. You may still disagree with them in the end, but most of the time they aren't actually crazy.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 4:11 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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stated this in the other thread about Gayle Benson...there is defense mechanism that is triggered is some posters brains about a region or team. By proxy, MM is an extension of the FO in some people’s minds here. Even MM himself said it’s not one decision maker in the room, but a group of, so sometimes he hedges. That’s okay, I don’t expect, nor depend on Crewz for everything. I enjoy some of his stuff, and not so much on others. Take it with a grain of salt like all NBA scuttlebutt is the best approach. However, if he is challenged by you, shel, Lester, etc, there is a contingent that has said mechanism triggered. I suppose it’s natural. I’m with you UD, if you think something is bs, refute the central point. This board need counterpoints in the worse way.
Absolutely. Agreed.
Also I like poking him bc he’s sensitive, but that’s a personal thing
Posted on 2/19/19 at 4:13 pm to TigerinATL
Wait are you saying that Jrue will be traded? I love Jrue, he is such a dedicated person.
And, what, Coach Gentry is our new POBO? Great news. Everybody loved the way he plays music during practice.
Kenny Hustle is the real deal, haven't you seen him play the past six games? He and Frank are sure shot future Hall of Famers.
Tongue in cheek. But we always seem to "love what we got."
I wanna got Jayson Tatum, and Marcus Smart and Robert Williams, and Jaylen Brown, and a perennial winning team.
And, what, Coach Gentry is our new POBO? Great news. Everybody loved the way he plays music during practice.
Kenny Hustle is the real deal, haven't you seen him play the past six games? He and Frank are sure shot future Hall of Famers.
Tongue in cheek. But we always seem to "love what we got."
I wanna got Jayson Tatum, and Marcus Smart and Robert Williams, and Jaylen Brown, and a perennial winning team.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 4:25 pm to kpop1
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Wait are you saying that Jrue will be traded? I love Jrue, he is such a dedicated person.
Jrue's fate depends on what moves happen next. If the Knicks get the #1 pick and we trade AD for Zion and a bunch of other kids and future picks, then you should do a rebuild and trade Jrue. But there's only a 14% chance that that happens. If we get the more likely trade of Tatum/Smart/Picks then keeping Jrue and aiming for the playoffs makes sense and Jrue said he'd be happy as long as he's on a team competing for the playoffs.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 4:39 pm to TigerinATL
Thanks for your informative response.
I was sort of joking. I am a big believer in the Jrue to lead the troops movement. Jrue has been dedicated and a bulldog who only wants to win. He is a credit to the Pelicans, and would be a valued commodity to most top level teams in the league. He has given hope to a downtrodden fan base. Jrue is the definition of professional (heard a good podcast today on The bird calls. A good assessment of Jrue.)
So let's say for the sake of argument that Jrue would be traded; what would a good haul for Jrue look like?
I was sort of joking. I am a big believer in the Jrue to lead the troops movement. Jrue has been dedicated and a bulldog who only wants to win. He is a credit to the Pelicans, and would be a valued commodity to most top level teams in the league. He has given hope to a downtrodden fan base. Jrue is the definition of professional (heard a good podcast today on The bird calls. A good assessment of Jrue.)
So let's say for the sake of argument that Jrue would be traded; what would a good haul for Jrue look like?
Posted on 2/19/19 at 4:39 pm to TigerinATL
I for one welcome counterpoints and believe despite our quirks this is easily the best of any team board on this site. I still remember the trade scenario discussions and who to take at 10,I just believe some have gone about it in a disappointing way.
I have had many a discussion with guys like corndeaux whom even if I disagree a decent amount it's always in a good place. The board has and can be done better(like during this saga) but this bullshite pettiness I've seen in recent days in some threads is best saved for lower boards.
I have had many a discussion with guys like corndeaux whom even if I disagree a decent amount it's always in a good place. The board has and can be done better(like during this saga) but this bullshite pettiness I've seen in recent days in some threads is best saved for lower boards.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 4:47 pm to kpop1
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say for the sake of argument that Jrue would be traded; what would a good haul for Jrue look like?
I would try to get a bidding war going between the Clippers and someone else like Phoenix. Phoenix will have a high pick this year and several young players worth taking a look at. The Clippers have Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Landry Shamet, Zubac, and the unprotected 2021 Miami pick. I'd hope I could get 1-2 of those players and the Miami pick from the Clippers.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:01 pm to TigerinATL
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I would try to get a bidding war going between the Clippers and someone else like Phoenix. Phoenix will have a high pick this year and several young players worth taking a look at.
jrue was traded (hurt) with a 2nd round pick (pierre jackson) for the #6 pick (nerlens noel) and a future 1st protected 1-5 in 2012 (elfrid payton). since then he's healed, become a 1st team all-defense player and a fringe all-star candidate.
it would be very interesting if the suns wanted to discuss terms even if the pels take the celtics deal.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:04 pm to TigerinATL
Where does all this knowledge come from? I know the players (sort of: who is good? not always sure), but knowing their draft picks is something I would like to know.
Isn't Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Landry Shamet a tit for tat kinda deal?
It would be hilarious if we ended up with Zubac.
Isn't Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Landry Shamet a tit for tat kinda deal?
It would be hilarious if we ended up with Zubac.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:09 pm to cgrand
Holiday is also 5 or 6 years older and playing on a near max deal. He is very injury prone and is a fit issue (where does he play). He is not a pure point anymore, if he ever was one, and the Suns are loaded with wing players. He would probably be a better fit with the Clippers and their big young PG. But it seems like the Clippers have their sites set on bigger fish..
Posted on 2/19/19 at 5:17 pm to kpop1
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Where does all this knowledge come from?
That isn't knowledge as much as my opinion on what I would target. The Clippers have cleared cap space to go after 2 max guys, one of which they plan on being Kawhi. They also got young assets to trade. The Clippers aren't attracting Kawhi to play with SGA and Shamet. If they said they had a trade lined up for Jrue or Bradley Beal, then all of a sudden Kawhi is a lot more interested in signing with them.
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