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Shooters shoot. Time 4 the pels to take their shot. Fire Gentry, throw the bank @ Calipari
Posted on 12/23/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 12/23/17 at 1:04 pm
It takes bold moves to be successful.
Alvin Gentry is an absolute fricking arse clown loser.
Go all in on the UK connection.
MAKE THIS shite FUN FOR THE CITY. ALVIN GENTRY IS WORTHLESS AND MISERABLE.
Alvin Gentry is an absolute fricking arse clown loser.
Go all in on the UK connection.
MAKE THIS shite FUN FOR THE CITY. ALVIN GENTRY IS WORTHLESS AND MISERABLE.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 5:07 pm to Vanilla Ice
I will never understand our fans' obsession with hiring Calipari. The guy is successful in college because he can recruit.
I want a good Xs and Os coach. We haven't had one of those in our franchise's history.
I want a good Xs and Os coach. We haven't had one of those in our franchise's history.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 6:37 pm to Vanilla Ice
I don’t care who it is as long as it isn’t Gentry
Posted on 12/24/17 at 8:24 am to unctiger4
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will never understand our fans' obsession with hiring Calipari. The guy is successful in college because he can recruit.
I want a good Xs and Os coach. We haven't had one of those in our franchise's history
He’s a manager of egos. He may be exactly what Boogie’s overly emotional arse needs. That’d be the rationale.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 9:40 am to ShamelessPel
I like Calipari and what he does at UK. Not a UK fan, but anyone who sticks it to the NCAA and sanctimonious dickbags like Coach K gets a thumbs up from me.
That said, he is a manager of 18 yo egos that don't get paid, need him to get paid, and, ideally, are on his team for about 8 months.
It's impressive that he has sustained his program with such a revolving door, but that in no way means he is qualified to build an NBA team with NBA egos
That said, he is a manager of 18 yo egos that don't get paid, need him to get paid, and, ideally, are on his team for about 8 months.
It's impressive that he has sustained his program with such a revolving door, but that in no way means he is qualified to build an NBA team with NBA egos
Posted on 12/24/17 at 10:41 am to corndeaux
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t's impressive that he has sustained his program with such a revolving door, but that in no way means he is qualified to build an NBA team with NBA egos
In no way? Public and player perception is a massive part of the battle to handling these guys. It’s well known the UK guys love Calipari. He’s not my first choice as a head coaching candidate, but I think it’s naive to assume having him wouldn’t help with the Cousins/Davis pairing and potentially rounding out the bottom portions of the roster with better talent.
The biggest question though, for me, is can he run a non traditional system around bigs in today’s NBA? The worry that he can’t bulldoze the league with talent seems fair. Also, will he surround himself with quality assistants or even be afforded the opportunity here if we threw the necessary amount at him?
I believe Crewz when he said we burned that bridge though, and Gentry has used up a couple more years of guaranteed AD, so I don’t even know if Cal would GAF about this opening anymore.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:27 am to ShamelessPel
I never said the bridge was burned. He wanted it, we said no thanks but that doesn't mean we can't go crawling back and pony up the cash
Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:32 am to ShamelessPel
He's qualified to get the job, certainly, because of those relationships, which again were built under very different circumstances than he would see in the NBA
But as you get to in paragraph 2, those relationships don't mean he is qualified as a NBA coach and all that entails.
I agree with you on the xs and os. I'm not impressed with system/coaching when I do watch UK play. If he can't do it at this level, he's Scott Brooks. KD loves that guy, didn't really matter.
And of course, I don't know if he is unqualified to be an NBA coach. maybe he would be a huge success. But the argument that Davis/Cousins are fans so hire him is a bad one.
But as you get to in paragraph 2, those relationships don't mean he is qualified as a NBA coach and all that entails.
I agree with you on the xs and os. I'm not impressed with system/coaching when I do watch UK play. If he can't do it at this level, he's Scott Brooks. KD loves that guy, didn't really matter.
And of course, I don't know if he is unqualified to be an NBA coach. maybe he would be a huge success. But the argument that Davis/Cousins are fans so hire him is a bad one.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:34 am to Crewz
Crewz, how do Davis/Cousins feel about Gentry + current staff?
Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:35 am to Crewz
Would Dell give up some control to Cal? I don’t see it
Posted on 12/25/17 at 11:40 am to unctiger4
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I will never understand our fans' obsession with hiring Calipari. The guy is successful in college because he can recruit.
The thought is I guess, he can stand up to Boogie, which really is a legit issue with anyone who has coached him since. And with the FBI going after college hoops now Cal's boy Worldwide Wes is in hiding and Kentucky's upcoming class is curiously not up to standard to this point.
But yeah, I'm with you...the thought of having to listen to that smiling phony every press conference is not appealing to me.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 4:31 pm to Tiger Ugly
The reason Calipari keeps getting brought up is there is a huge contingent of Kentucky fans that have attached themseleves to this team and want to take every opportunity to talk about their stupid program. They are worse than Bama fans.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 4:46 pm to brmark70816
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he reason Calipari keeps getting brought up is there is a huge contingent of Kentucky fans that have attached themseleves to this team and want to take every opportunity to talk about their stupid program. They are worse than Bama fans.
To be fair, 4 of our 8 main rotational players are ex Wildcats. 50% is a pretty massive percentage. Most college fans of a team would follow a team with a % like that.
Posted on 12/25/17 at 6:36 pm to corndeaux
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those relationships don't mean he is qualified as a NBA coach and all that entails.
Cousins was a different player the first few weeks of the season, then he lost his focus. If Cal is the salesman he appears to be, he can probably tell him the same story in a new way every 2 weeks. If you get a dialed in Cousins all year many of the other coaching deficiencies almost don't matter. Whoever we get, both the GM and HC need enough leash to do things like bench Cousins if necessary. Coaches with one year left on their deals like Gentry/Demps are/would be don't have the support they need to make hard decisions.
This post was edited on 12/25/17 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 12/25/17 at 6:39 pm to brmark70816
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The reason Calipari keeps getting brought up is there is a huge contingent of Kentucky fans that have attached themseleves to this team and want to take every opportunity to talk about their stupid program. They are worse than Bama fans.
We have a few random UK posters that show up every now and then but I don't think any are regulars and usually aren't the ones bringing Cal up. The reason a board populated by LSU fans brings up Cal so often is because buy in matters and Cal has already gotten several of the players in question to sacrifice their own personal glory, and potentially draft status, for the good of the team.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:27 am to TigerinATL
I don't believe that is what Calipari does. He has established a one and done academy. Survive 8 months with him, maintain your draft position and move on. He does very little to advance or develop talent and he doesn't ask much of the player. Nobody's draft status gets hurt at Kentucky. He just overwhelms his opponents with talent. I don't knock him for it. He found a niche and took advantage of it. But for his system to work in the NBA, he will need 7-8 all NBA players. We got 2, so probably wouldn't work here..
Posted on 12/26/17 at 8:15 am to TigerinATL
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If Cal is the salesman he appears to be, he can probably tell him the same story in a new way every 2 weeks
that's awfully optimistic without much reason. and investing in a guy who might be able to fool one of your franchise players every 2 weeks seems like a poor long term strategy for any NBA team
Cousins may like Cal a lot. he also hasn't played for him in almost a decade. when he did play for him he was a teenager trying to get a fat contract. and its not like Cousins got through his year at UK w/o incident either.
and maybe Cal is the Cuz Whisperer. i'd happily eat shite on this one. but i dont see how anyone looks at both guys in 2018 and says confidently "Calipari will fix him" i also dont really see what the hang up is with his play this year.
a lot of this is trying to find the answer to a question that doesnt have one. Boogie will always be Boogie. he will score lots of points. he will get tired and lazy. he will dominate opponents with his skill and talent. he will make dumb passes that lead to bad turnovers and losses
to do a Simmonsesque take- he's the incredibly hot, yet ultimately crazy girl. you date her as long as you can and enjoy the amazing sex while deep down, knowing the insanity means any serious long term relationship is likely doomed. by all means, enjoy it while it lasts, but let's just be clear about where this will probably end up.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 9:21 am to corndeaux
I think the simple question here is Cal or Gentry? if anyone is taking Gentry over him you're a lunatic. Whether you think he'll be a great coach in the NBA is another discussion, but at this point I'd just take a good one.
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