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re: Shams says Pelicans are “aggressively pursuing” a top 2-3 pick for Scoot

Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20669 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

Ingram is eligible for 30% max on his next deal as he’s been in the league 8 years.



Right. And Ingram is overrated. Nobody wants to hear that, because everyone likes him. I like him.

But he's not dominant offensively, because he lives on midrange shots. The best shot attempts are at the rim and the 3-pt line, and he doesn't take many of those.

And he's still a negative defender. Did he step it up in the playoffs a year ago? Yes, but we still need to win regular-season games.

BI is a great guy, a really good player, and a solid guy in the locker room. But he can't lead a team to a title.

If Charlotte wants him and he wants to go home to North Carolina, then that's a trade I want to make.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:16 pm to
Thats a great take. Couldnt have said it better.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8111 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:17 pm to
I don’t understand the point in arguing about any of this speculative bs.

Here’s some Scoot Henderson highlights

LINK


Let’s just assume we don’t lose any players until we know which players those are/could be. How would you guys use him in your theoretical rotations?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:17 pm to
Sorry about that lol
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:18 pm to
You asked how his immaturity level is keeping him from being the player we need him to be lol

If you can’t answer that for yourself, then there is no helping you lol
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:22 pm to
He has to be your lead starting point guard. If pels don’t think he deserves to be that, then trading for him is worthless.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8111 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:25 pm to
Right, and the rest? We’re going to have some limitations with a point guard who can’t shoot threes depending on the makeup of whatever trade we’re talking about.

For instance, Zion, Scoot and Herb sharing the court is going to cause a massive pileup in the lane
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:27 pm to
Hes not ben simmons. I can see his 3pt shooting improve but thats just an assumption. You have to play him with Trey and CJ. Bring Herb off the bench.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8111 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:30 pm to
I’m just going off the limited sample size we have, plus it’s not the first time I’ve heard of a freak athlete who can’t shoot, most take a while to learn.

We’d really need Jose to stay healthy in that scenario. Ball handling with the second unit wouldn’t be ideal
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:31 pm to
I guess I’ll ask you this. Do you think Grizz are limited with Ja? Or do you think Ja is so elite that he makes others better and finds a way to score even if he cant shoot the 3 as well.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:33 pm to
I know people talk about him only being a freak athlete. But hes a great playmaker, very high IQ, tough defender even at his size and is a leader competitor on and off the court. We have to consider all those things as well.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8111 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:34 pm to
All this all being said. I would rather just see

CJ
BI
Zion
Trey
Jonas

With Jose, Herb, Nance and Daniels off the bench play one full, healthy season. It’s an incredible amount of firepower
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8111 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:36 pm to
I think certain rotations aren’t available due to Ja’s lack of a three. I’m not saying being limited in one area means you can’t win. Aside from maybe 5 dudes in the history of the game, every player has their limitations
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46441 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:37 pm to
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Nobody wants to hear that, because everyone likes him. I like him.
none of us is the GM. We are fans. We like who we like. I like ingram, I like rooting for him.

I don’t like zion

ain’t gonna change the way things are going or the way things will go
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8111 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:38 pm to
Right, but freak athletes don’t need threes because they can dominate in the lane against smaller opponents. It wasn’t a comment related to his defense or iq, just that 3’s have never been necessary for guys like him against their high school and college counterparts
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112623 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Do you think Grizz are limited with Ja
Yea. He may be better than BI but I have him in the same tier, I don't see him winning a title as a #1. He's an inefficient scorer, much more inefficient than BI. Plus he's one of the worst perimeter defenders in the game.

Put those 2 together, it's really not a coincidence that the Grizzlies are still really good when Ja doesn't play.
Posted by Deplorable Duke
Lousyana
Member since Nov 2016
2619 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:40 pm to
Sterling Henderson
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8111 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:41 pm to
Also true, they’re 33-17 without him
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55796 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:42 pm to
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play one full, healthy season.


The definition of insanity
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8111 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:42 pm to
A guy can dream
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